[Shipwreck]

I had a chance to rent a Sig 365 today. It was interesting to shoot it head to head with the Shield Plus.

Recoil between the 2 was close. But surprisingly enough, it was a tiny bit less on the Sig 365.

It shot decently. I shoot better with the Shield Plus, but it was not too different. I also have 3 Shield Plus guns, with over 2000 rounds total (between all 3).... This was the first time I ever shot the Sig.

 

[Higgy Baby]

I have shot quiet a few gun in my time. I have liked a lot of guns too. But for carry- to me I like the 365 better than any. And I favor the 380 over the 9mm. It is just so smooth and accurate.

 

[Shipwreck]

I have shot quiet a few gun in my time. I have liked a lot of guns too. But for carry- to me I like the 365 better than any. And I favor the 380 over the 9mm. It is just so smooth and accurate.

I am trying to find something because that Glock 42 I got just is not reliable.

The Sig 365 in 380 seems like a good idea. But, I've read some posts on other forums that is somewhat similar to what I experienced with the G42. I don't know if I want to risk another small 380. I've already wasted money on that Glock.

And, the Ruger 380 MAX has a ton of complaint posts on various forums. I want to replace my gen 1 LCP, but I don't think the Ruger Max is worth the risk. Some people claim that they have sent theirs back to Ruger multiple times...

The 9mm Sig 365 does pocket carry in my jeans. But, I will admit that it is a bit of a stretch. And, it's only 3 ounces lighter than my Shield Plus. I CAN pocket carry my Shield Plus in my jeans with the 10 round mag, but I'll be honest - it's too big and heavy for that. It fits, but is not very practical.

I put a G42 on top of the 365. It is about the same dimensions - except the 365 is thicker.

I MIGHT get one in 9mm soon. Not sure yet...

 

[Vbp1]

I had a chance to rent a Sig 365 today. It was interesting to shoot it head to head with the Shield Plus.

Recoil between the 2 was close. But surprisingly enough, it was a tiny bit less on the Sig 365.

It shot decently. I shoot better with the Shield Plus, but it was not too different. I also have 3 Shield Plus guns, with over 2000 rounds total (between all 3).... This was the first time I ever shot the Sig.

I have a completly different experience.
First of all let me tell you that I am a total noob. Last time I shoot anything it was 30 years ago and it was some snub revolver.
Since I live in NJ and before that I lived in NYC, until now I had no option to get a gun. So when opportunity presented, I whent for it. While I waited for my foid card I did research. Whent to local shop to handle a few models , yes Sig 365 and 365XL were prominently championed buy the sale staff as the LGS is a Sig oriented heavily.
Also check out hellcat pro and mp9 2.0 compact and EZ.

First round up where p365x and mp shield plus as I liked how they fit in my hand.

As soon as I got my foid I went to the range. Rented Sig 365X and 365, hellcat, and shield plus.
Out of all only 2 fealt good and performed well for me.
A hellcat and shield plus.
Both Sigs where a little too snappy for me. Hellcat pro just didn't feel good in the hand. But the little brother was perfect.
Shield plus won do to availability of thumb safety. Otherwise it would have been a very difficult choice for me.

 

[SouthernBoy]

I had a chance to rent a Sig 365 today. It was interesting to shoot it head to head with the Shield Plus.

Recoil between the 2 was close. But surprisingly enough, it was a tiny bit less on the Sig 365.

It shot decently. I shoot better with the Shield Plus, but it was not too different. I also have 3 Shield Plus guns, with over 2000 rounds total (between all 3).... This was the first time I ever shot the Sig.

I'm not a big fan of the basic Sig Sauer P365. I have handled one but have never shot one. Were I of a mind to go that route, it would be either my P365X or my M&P Shield Plus in the standard size configuration. This could change down the road but for now, that is my take on these guns. It is great that we have so many fine choices in this group of SD guns.

As for caliber, unless some unique situation forces me to go for a really small pocket gun, I will not carry anything less than a 9mm pistol. The .380ACP is at the bottom of the ladder in terms of effective SD use and I will avoid carrying a gun chambered for that cartridge unless I have no other choice.

 

[Shipwreck]

I'm not a big fan of the basic Sig Sauer P365. I have handled one but have never shot one. Were I of a mind to go that route, it would be either my P365X or my M&P Shield Plus in the standard size configuration. This could change down the road but for now, that is my take on these guns. It is great that we have so many fine choices in this group of SD guns.

As for caliber, unless some unique situation forces me to go for a really small pocket gun, I will not carry anything less than a 9mm pistol. The .380ACP is at the bottom of the ladder in terms of effective SD use and I will avoid carrying a gun chambered for that cartridge unless I have no other choice.

I am looking for something for pocket carry - better than the 1st gen Ruger LCP I have. That is what the Glock 42 was supposed to do for me. I ended up giving that gun to my son. 98% reliable doesn't cut it for me.

The Sig 365 is a tiny bit more pocketable than the Shield Plus is. Not by much, but a little. I've read too many mixed things about the Ruger 380 Max. And, I won't even go there after the Glock 42 reliability issues. And, I don't want a SAO pocket gun with a thumb safety - so, that cuts out some other choices...

Comparing the Shield Plus to the 365, I prefer the Shield Plus too. But, I MIGHT buy a 365 for a specific reason. Not sure yet. I'm not 100% happy with the size (tiny bit bigger than I want). But, it was more pleasant to shoot than I thought it would be. I once had a Kahr PM9, and I hated shooting that gun. A lot of recoil because of the size. The 365 wasn't unpleasant to shoot.

I do prefer the trigger on the Shield Plus, though.

I plan to stick with 9mm most of the time. But for a pocket gun, I will make certain allowances. However, I will say that I was impressed with the Glock 42 for one thing. I could dump the entire mag in rapid fire, and shoot a group size that was much smaller with the 380 than I can with a mag dump on a 9mm. That was kinda cool.

Anyway, I am not really sure what I will do, because no one else makes a pocketable 380 that I want. The S&W Bodyguard is NOT what I want. The trigger sucks, and despite being a S&W product, the quality in that gun just isn't there. I watched several Youtube reviews on the gun, and many people pointed that out.

 

[SouthernBoy]

I have several very nice sidearms in my primary carry stable. A gen3 and gen4 Glock 23, an M&P 40c, a P365X, a P365XL, an M&P 9 Shield Plus standard size and configuration, and an M&P 9 Shield Plus PC 4" barrel version. All are really fine carry pistols. For the past six months, I have been carrying my P365XL on a daily basis. With a MagGuts spring kit and a Tactical Development Pro Ledge MagGuts base plate, this is a great carry piece and really works well for my personal needs and requirements. With 15 rounds of Speer Gold Dot 124gr JHP +P loaded in this small package, it does well for me.

 

[Shipwreck]

Well, I rotate between my 3.1" Perf Center Shield Plus and the 4" Perf Center Shield Plus. However, I have low back and hip problems - which is why I switched the lighter guns (I once carried heavier, DA/SA guns).

And, I just lost 30 lbs over the past few months. I am down to 185lbs now. And, I will say that carry a gun on my hip is starting to bother my side and back lately (not as much padding ).

So, I am looking for another alternative to occasionally carry - hence a decent pocket gun.

 

[Higgy Baby]

I have the 365 in both 9mm and 380. I was so impressed with the 9mm version- thought it was the greatest thing ever. I even bought the slightly larger X grip frame for it- perfect. Then- I got the 380. My first shots were unbelievably smooth- and the accuracy was easy for me. I was amazed as how well and easily I could hit the target -even at 30 yds!

Of course your mileage may vary- but for me....the 365 x 380 is my #1 all time best shooter ever.

 

[SouthernBoy]

Well, I rotate between my 3.1" Perf Center Shield Plus and the 4" Perf Center Shield Plus. However, I have low back and hip problems - which is why I switched the lighter guns (I once carried heavier, DA/SA guns).

And, I just lost 30 lbs over the past few months. I am down to 185lbs now. And, I will say that carry a gun on my hip is starting to bother my side and back lately (not as much padding ).

So, I am looking for another alternative to occasionally carry - hence a decent pocket gun.

I had lumbar spinal stenosis which resulted in decompression and fusion surgery of my L4 and L5 vertebrae back in June 2013. Just like new and has been a blessing. That and my total and partial knee surgeries (right and left respectively) gave me a new lease on life and enables me to do pretty much anything I want (rock climbing, skiing, and running are not in the picture).

 

[Shipwreck]

I had lumbar spinal stenosis which resulted in decompression and fusion surgery of my L4 and L5 vertebrae back in June 2013. Just like new and has been a blessing. That and my total and partial knee surgeries (right and left respectively) gave me a new lease on life and enables me to do pretty much anything I want (rock climbing, skiing, and running are not in the picture).

I had several low back injuries when I was younger. My SI joints get stuck all the time. I have to see the chiropractor very often. I also wear a TENS unit all the time, on my lower back, which saved me from having to see him even more often. I am wearing it right now.

When I woke up, I was fine. I stretched, and bam - low back pain. In fact, I have to sleep on my back, with 4 pillows under my knees. I don't move the entire night. If I sleep on my side - 50/50 chance when I wake up that my SI joint is out of place. I have been sleeping this way for 10 years now. It sucks...

I have other back issues and muscle problems too. But, this is the area that effects me that revolves around carrying a gun.

 

[Shipwreck]

I have the 365 in both 9mm and 380. I was so impressed with the 9mm version- thought it was the greatest thing ever. I even bought the slightly larger X grip frame for it- perfect. Then- I got the 380. My first shots were unbelievably smooth- and the accuracy was easy for me. I was amazed as how well and easily I could hit the target -even at 30 yds!

Of course your mileage may vary- but for me....the 365 x 380 is my #1 all time best shooter ever.

I WANT to buy one in 380 - but after the G42, I am worried. I did see a few posts on other forums complaining about reliability of the 380 version vs the 9mm version. I can't afford to do thata gain. And, I don't feel right selling a gun that doesn't work 100%.

Trading it back into the gun store only gets you 30%. That's why I gave the G42 to my son. He wanted it

 

[Tinyman]

I'm not a big fan of the basic Sig Sauer P365.

I, however, love mine. No manual safety, no extensions, no light, no red dot, no laser, no fancy holster (I use an Elite size 7 with clip).

I've not fired (or even held) any 365 variants so FWIW, the 365 is on a par with my G42.

 

[SouthernBoy]

I, however, love mine. No manual safety, no extensions, no light, no red dot, no laser, no fancy holster (I use an Elite size 7 with clip).

I've not fired (or even held) any 365 variants so FWIW, the 365 is on a par with my G42.

I am very fond of my P365X and P365XL. Great subcompact pistols. The holster I most often use for my P365XL, which is the gun I carry most of the time now, is a Rounded by Concealment Express Kydex OWB belt loop holster. For my P365X, I like the DeSantis Mini Scabbard belt holster. Both work very well for me.

 

[hardcast]

I am very fond of my P365X and P365XL. Great subcompact pistols.

Same here.

 

[Rick McC.]

 

[hike1272.mail]

I had a chance to rent a Sig 365 today. It was interesting to shoot it head to head with the Shield Plus.

Recoil between the 2 was close. But surprisingly enough, it was a tiny bit less on the Sig 365.

It shot decently. I shoot better with the Shield Plus, but it was not too different. I also have 3 Shield Plus guns, with over 2000 rounds total (between all 3).... This was the first time I ever shot the Sig.

Firearms are a personal preference.
Your test is proof. I would say the opposite -- that the P365 is easier to shot than the Shield. I've shot several of each and enjoy the P365 (with the flat trigger instead of the curved trigger).
Both are good pistols.
I really wish that S&W still made their older, metal-framed pistols. Those are the ones that I loved.

 

[hike1272.mail]

I am trying to find something because that Glock 42 I got just is not reliable.

The Sig 365 in 380 seems like a good idea. But, I've read some posts on other forums that is somewhat similar to what I experienced with the G42. I don't know if I want to risk another small 380. I've already wasted money on that Glock.

And, the Ruger 80 MAX has a ton of complaint posts on various forums. I want to replace my gen 1 LCP, but I don't think the Ruger Max is worth the risk. Some people claim that they have sent theirs back to Ruger multiple times...

The 9mm Sig 365 does pocket carry in my jeans. But, I will admit that it is a bit of a stretch. And, it's only 3 ounces lighter than my Shield Plus. I CAN pocket carry my Shield Plus in my jeans with the 10 round mag, but I'll be honest - it's too big and heavy for that. It fits, but is not very practical.

I put a G42 on top of the 365. It is about the same dimensions - except the 365 is thicker.

I MIGHT get one in 9mm soon. Not sure yet...

The P365 in .380acp is a great choose for some of us. Certainly more firepower than the G42. Even more pluses with the S&W 380 (size and capacity). Ruger 380s are just not an option for me.
The P364/380 with the flat trigger (that comes with the X* P365s is a great improvement. I added a Wilson Combat grip module (with weights) and really like this setup. IWB is how I decided to go with it.
IMHO

 

[frankstclair17]

I am trying to find something because that Glock 42 I got just is not reliable. The Sig 365 in 380 seems like a good idea. But, I've read some posts on other forums that is somewhat similar to what I experienced with the G42. I don't know if I want to risk another small 380. I've already wasted money on that Glock. And, the Ruger 80 MAX has a ton of complaint posts on various forums. I want to replace my gen 1 LCP, but I don't think the Ruger Max is worth the risk. Some people claim that they have sent theirs back to Ruger multiple times... The 9mm Sig 365 does pocket carry in my jeans. But, I will admit that it is a bit of a stretch. And, it's only 3 ounces lighter than my Shield Plus. I CAN pocket carry my Shield Plus in my jeans with the 10 round mag, but I'll be honest - it's too big and heavy for that. It fits, but is not very practical. I put a G42 on top of the 365. It is about the same dimensions - except the 365 is thicker. I MIGHT get one in 9mm soon. Not sure yet...

How old is the Glock? Early 42's had teething issues. Glock is very receptive to correcting the problem. Give them a call.

 

[Shipwreck]

How old is the Glock? Early 42's had teething issues. Glock is very receptive to correcting the problem. Give them a call.

It is just a couple of months old.

I gave it to my son. If it continues to have issues for him, I will send it in.