Heck, I don't need a stinking cheese grater! I'm such a man that I just hold it in my hand with a really tight grip.:mrgreen: Too bad I could not handle running +P thru that PF9 I had a while ago. I ran one magazine of the stuff and thought the gun was going to come apart.I have heard it said shooting a KT PF9 is like putting a lit firecracker under a cheesegrater then grabbing the cheese grater. Shooting +p would then be like putting an M80 uner the same cheese grater.