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From my experience, rim fire ammo (or perhaps the guns that fire rim fire ammo) are not as reliable as center fire ammo. I think that the rim based primer is not as consistant as the center fire primer. In any case I have had many failure-to-fires with rim fire ammo, but never with factory center fire (reloads are another story entirely).

For personal defense I would never carry a rim fire weapon.
 

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From my experience, rim fire ammo (or perhaps the guns that fire rim fire ammo) are not as reliable as center fire ammo. I think that the rim based primer is not as consistant as the center fire primer. In any case I have had many failure-to-fires with rim fire ammo, but never with factory center fire (reloads are another story entirely).

For personal defense I would never carry a rim fire weapon.
I agree as far as carrying goes. I have a Sig P226 in 357Sig for that. This would be a fun gun for me. As far as reliable rim ammo, it depends on the brand. I used to compete with 22 rimfire for many years. I only had reliability issues with old ammo, ammo that has been stored in a damp area or cheap brands(cheaply manufactured). I personally like Eley and Lapua 22 ammo for consistency and accuracy.
 

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On the local discussion forum here, the local store is a sponsor. Just this morning they claimed that they are still trying to get their hands on some
 

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Looks like a real "fun" gun in the finest spray and pray tradition. My guess is they will be prone to feeding and ejecting issues that I wouldn't want to mess with. .22 rimfires in semi-autos can be fussy, the .22 mags length will require precise chambering for rapid fire, and, well, it is a Kel-Tec, and I am a singed moth whence it comes to that flame.
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Alright. I know next to nothing about ammunition but it does seem that a cartridge as long as the 22 mag would have problems being cycled reliably in a pistol. Is the 22 mag just a bad idea altogether. I like the idea of high capacity, accuracy and control. Kinda itchy to try one out.
 

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Yes!

Has anyone recieved one of these and have any reactions they would like to share? I am really interested in buying one myself. Its just one of those guns you would get addicted to. Fast!
Got mine July 2010. First one in the state. My FFL has mostly former Special Ops and Bodyguards working--all knowledgeable and all well trained. One is a grand master.

We opened the box and took it into the range. Everyone tried the PMR-30 and everyone loved it! Trigger pull is light. Accuracy was outstanding!

Most impressive was the sound it makes--sounds so much bigger than a .22 Mag.

And finally, like the FFL said, "if you don't stop the BG with the .22 Mag, you can always light him on fire" (with the impressive flame that shoots out of the barrel). And yes, I know it's a waste of energy, but the "wow" factor makes it a lot of fun! Still--you do have a 4+ inch barrel and that gets the speed up enough that you won't have a lot of trouble defending yourself if it comes to that.

Everyone at the range had to come and see this impressive pistol. All the guys loved it. Very light--even loaded with 30 rounds.

While .22 Mag might not be as deadly as larger calibers, 30 rounds of it is nothing to sneeze at. Just nice to have lots of firepower in something as light, as accurate, and as much fun as this pistol is. LOVE IT!
 

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Well, it is September, and I still don't see any in any gun stores around my part of Indiana. I hope Kel Tec gets whatever problems sorted out and gets these to the dealers soon. I would like to have one for a bedside gun at home. tumbleweed
 

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Just picked one up today. My LGS has had a number of them in and out! (They last only 2 day in the store).
Yes it is fulgly, the Sights are GREAT, it's nice to have a flame-thrower, fun gun!!!!!
Shoots nice! :mrgreen:

Lateck,
 

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I think this would make a good home defense weapon. It is light, does not over-penetrate, and you can lay down 6 round bursts and do as much damage as a tap-tap-tap from a 9 millimeter. No recoil to deal with. Probably significant muzzle flash--these is a caliber designed for a rifle--so that might be an issue. I could even see it as a personal defense weapon (if anyone ever makes a holster for it) it only weighs 12 ounces empty so it would be an easy carry. There is the question about reliability. I had a High Standard derringer in .22 magnum. And no amount of gun smithing could get it to fire reliably--with just two rounds in the derringer that was a deciding factor for trading it in. But with 30 rounds in the magazine you are not impacted nearly as much. (And I think ammo manufacturing has improved since the late 1970s.)
 

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Just picked one up today. My LGS has had a number of them in and out! (They last only 2 day in the store).
Yes it is fulgly, the Sights are GREAT, it's nice to have a flame-thrower, fun gun!!!!!
Shoots nice! :mrgreen:

Lateck,
Damn, your lucky. Good luck with it just the same!:numbchuck:
 

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I for whatever reason contacted a dealer (B & H Gun Rack) near Kel Tec (only in Merritt Island) and asked if they had a list I could get on for a PMR30........NO! But I could leave my e-mail and they would e-mail if they got some in. I thought for a second and almost said no (what chance would I have) but then gave it to them, this was on 12/4/2011. On 12/7/2011 the e-mail arrived that they got 6 in, I called and as of 12/8/2011 it is enroute to it's new home..........absolutely amazing!!!!!!!!!! This is my 6th Kel Tec and the next will be the RMR30 and the next will be the KSG and the next and the next and the next......................I own SIGs (P220/P238) Kimber Ultra CarryII, Glock 30SF, Browning Medalist .22 (1964) and still think my Kel Tecs are one of the most reliable pistols around.
 

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I talked to B&H Gunrack on 12/2/2011 and sent them a prepaid order for a PMR30 on the same day and you talked to them on 12/4/2011 and on 12/8/2011 you are being sent a new PMR 30. My question to you is: Who in the hell are you?
 

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Right place Right Time I guess

Received my PMR30 about 4 days later. My brother in law also got one of them at the same time. Actually I was at the computer when the e-mail came through and in 30 minutes they were all gone. Seems like you got hosed.......I would be checking on that if I were you. Anyway I love it and wow what a pistol.
 

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by the way B&H stopped taking orders long before you stated you placed a pre-paid order, I would be calling them if I were you!!!!!!
 

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My father just bought one of these last year (old thread) and let me shoot it. It is a tack driver and lots of fun to shoot. It wants to use high velocity ammo, though.
 

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It's a fun gun, easy to shoot, accurate, but there seems to be a design flaw (at least in mine). Frequent failure to feed UNLESS I apply pressure to magazine while shooting. There is a you tube video (funny, worth watching for the stoner who made it) about tightening it up to make it more reliable. It should be made to seat about 1 mm higher....doubt it will happen though. So, I still love to shoot but my two hand grip includes pressure at the bottom pushing up.
 
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