[Mister]

Henry 9mm carbine
I dunno, but the very sound of Henry making a $1000 9mm carbine seems like a contradiction; and I have several Henrys too.
From the description I don’t see it as being a practical homestead firearm for the price point.
Defending the livestock? 🥴 Pfffft puhleeze. I can think of several more practical firearms for this.
I’m sure it will still see a good duty firearm for certain home types, but very few.
A plinker, sure, but an awfully expensive one.
Maybe Henry took too much of a gamble on this one?

I think S&W’s new folding 9mm carbine is going to leave this in the dust. Perhaps I’m wrong, But thats just me.

 

[Mister]

A nice Henry 41 mag seems like a good alternative.
Like the Henry,, but the 9 mm, I’d have to agree

EXCELLENT POINT! 👍
Chamber this in the 41mag……wooof! I’d be saving up to grab one!

 

[Mister]

There are some calibers that benefit a lot from a carbine length barrel. 9, 40, and 45 APC are not them.
If going to the trouble of a carbine, I'm using a rifle round and get it done.
Not that I wouldn't do some sketchy stuff for a 44 mag, 45 Colt, 454, 460 or the like carbine and six shooter combo. They are in a different category, but still not rifle.

Well that depends on the ammunition too.
a 9mm 90gr will benefit by up to 250 fps. The weightier the projectile the less benefit. A 145gr projectile merely breaks even. Even still, there’s a reason while law enforcement doesn’t think theres no benefit. There obviously is. Though for you and me, it seems pointless to use em in close quarters. I’d rather use a handgun. But thats just me.
Now in the Walmart parking lot, when Tyrone Deshaun Michael David Jefferson Washington wants to throw a hissy fit 50 yards away…..gimme the carbine. Just not this Henry!

But as someone mentioned, Henry could have done better by developing this with a 41mag, if it’s possible .
As it is, its not going to be a big seller and I anticipate they’ll drop it from the catalog.

Jerry Miculek brought up your same concerns about benefits and admitted there certainly are benefits to 9mm carbines. (hes still fast though up in years now)

 

[Mister]

The Capacity is low, but we are looking at Henrys,,and lever action always comes to mind.

Henry H006MR41 Big Boy Carbine 41 Rem Mag 7+1 16.50' Polished Brass American Walnut Right Hand

<p>The Henry Big Boy Carbine is a modern carry-over of the 'Trapper' classics of the past. It combines all the features of Henry's legendary Big Boy rifle with the quick handling of a shorter, lighter carbine barrel length which decreases barrel weight by almost a pound. It's the ideal brush gun...

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Yep, the capacity is too low for comfort.
I have that same Henry in 357mag. With my custom my hot loads and hornady FTX bullets they knock hogs down in their tracks. They’re so accurate at the range they’re just boring.
But yeah, when you think of Henry, you think of Lever actions.

 

[Mister]

There is so much wrong with this., I think I'll just ignore any more posts from you. It's been real.
It is obvious you have a lot to learn, just don't seem to think so.

Wow!
After I was nice and polite.
Could you please try to be more insulting in the future?
After all a multiple Champion Shooter for decades just said the same thing I did and yet, you’re gonna tell him and a CB vet that they both have a lot to learn? (You’ve got to be kidding)
I suppose it’s true when they say “some people just don’t like to be wrong“. I sincerely hope your not one of them, sir.
I hope you simmer down long enough so we can participate in other sections and subjects in the forum like adults without getting bent out of shape over such a small thing.

 

[Mister]

I got to handle a 9mm Henry the other day. I like it, and it's more traditional look. I've had Marlin Camp carbines for years, and chronographed quite a variety of 9mm ammo in them. It has been my experience that the 124/125 grain and lighter bullets, especially +P and +P+ loads, pick up more speed in the 16" barrel over a 5" barrel than the heavier bullets, i.e., 147-158 grain. In fact, the heavier bullets sometimes lose velocity in the 16" barrel. For example, the Federal 147 grain +P 9mm averaged 1017 FPS in a 5" barrel, and 950 FPS in the 16" barrel. The IMI 158 grain 9mm averaged 971 FPS in a 4.7" barrel, 891 FPS in a 16" barrel. Go figure. The lightest 9mm bullet I can recall chronographing is the 65 grain ARX bullet that was sold over the Ruger brand name for a time. It averaged 1706 FPS in a 5" pistol, 2005 FPS in the 16" barrel.

I like the 9mm carbine. It is a fun light duty plinker out to about a hundred yards, and an interesting test bed for comparing 9mm velocities in the various barrel lengths.

Well said, Rock.
Every caliber and load has optimum barrel length. The weightier the bullet, the less benefit until you get to the fat boys.
As a reloader I’m pretty sure I could get the big’uns to get closer to handguns. I wouldn’t really know why I’d bother though. A speedy 115-124gr could easily take up the slack and maybe then some.
If S&W ever gets this platform on the shelves, I’d love to find out more.

 

[Mister]

I saw that Henry announcement for that carbine and thought it was an interesting idea. I have a few Henry's with the Long Ranger in 556 being my current favorite. But if I was going for a pistol caliber carbine, thinking I would go with the Ruger option and probably in the take down version.

Man I’m green with envy, I so wanted to be able to afford that Long Ranger. Some things just aren’t meant to be.
I’m still plenty happy with my Henry 30-30 though.

 

[Mister]

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Last thing I would want is,,,,, all my rifles in 9mm, I never took to the 9mm as a hunting round.

I’m with you there.
I’m more than practical with owning firearms. For instance my big game rifle is a do-all for the continent. The 30-30 will take just about everything on the North American Continent. Why would I need a 308, 30-06 etc (Just be a good stalker to short the killed range)
For small game and hogs…..I don’t needed anything more than a 22wmr.
Turkey=shotgun
plinking=CZ 452 22lr
on my hip when I’m hunting…..H&K VP9
when I’m about town, Sheild 9 (+xtra mag)
I’m liking the idea of the new S&W 9mm folder carbine for the truck and out of town excursions. It would certainly fill a nitch. But I need another nitch to justify owning one (believe me, I’m looking) .

My father however is a handgun nut to the 9th degree!
He has 3 different 32 H&R mags as an example.
The “I godda have it” syndrome has never come for me. I must be immune . 🤪 (or just cheap)

 

[Mister]

Or you could just find an old 30-30 for less, and have more horsepower…

Already have my Henry 30-30
but a carbine 41 mag would sure be fun for hogs in the thickets though.

 

[Mister]

Henry lists 1 x 5-round and 1 x 10-round magazines are including in "free" states.
It can be ordered to accomodate either Glock or Sig magazines as well as the Henry magazines.
2 Things: (1) Do some states still limit hunting to 5 rounds? If so, this is catering to hunteres; (2) this is the first production 9mm carbine that can use Sig's P329 mags.

My tack is to wait until they are sold on the used market. They aren't even in the LGSs in my area so waiting isn't a big deal (for me).

You will likely never see them in most LGSs either. Every LGS that I’ve ever been to that carries Henry only stocks their more commonly demanded items. I’ve never seen a Long Ranger on a shelf.
Don’t hold your breath hoping find or bump into a used one either.