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Any one out there care to help me out on picking a .22 for general shooting and plinking? Was looking at the S&W 617 and would love to have one but its kinda rich for my blood. Any input would be great, Thanks Mike
 

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those three cover the best
you gotta determine barrel length sights and feel of your hand
if those are too expensive the american herritage is the way to go - these are SA
 
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My recommendations,,,

So you want to buy a quality .22 pistol?

These are the 5 most common target style .22 pistols out there,,,
Any one of these 5 will give you many years of excellent performance.

I've not listed them in any order of preference.

Browning Buckmark = Great pistol but I found the grip to be funky.
Ruger 22/45 Mk II or MK III = Great pistol with a 1911-ish grip.
Beretta U22 NEOS = Great pistol with a very slender grip.
Ruger Mk II or MK III = Great pistol with a luger-ish grip.
S&W 22A = Great pistol with a very fat grip.

Any of these will serve you very well,,,
They are all reliable firearms that aren't ammo picky,,,
Rather than sweat over which one is better, get the one that fits your hand.

For those who want a non-target style DA/SA .22 pistol,,,
That is a reliable shooter but at an affordable cost,,,
There are two that consistently get great reviews:

Bersa Thunder 22 or the Firestorm 22,,,
Virtually identical pistols made by the same company,,,
These pistols are very similar in size and shape to a Walther PPK.

Two other pistols I will mention out of fairness to their brand names,,,
The Sig-Sauer Mosquito and the Walther P-22 are pistols that get very mixed reviews,,,
People who own them either absolutely love them or adamantly hate them.

The main concern of these guns is that the slides may (and sometimes do) crack under normal use,,,
Both have slides made of Zamak which is a Zinc alloy,,,
Commonly called "pot metal" or other bad names,,,
I can not verify or deny these assertions.

Then there are the high-end (high dollar) models.

CZ-75B Kadet - With the exception of the Kadet having adjustable rear sights,,,
It is virtually identical to the CZ-75B in 9mm.

Sig-Sauer Classic .22 - There are 3 models to choose from,,,
They start as a full frame .22 semi-auto that is convertible to their centerfire counterpart using what Sig calls the X-Change Kit,,,
They are the only production pistols that are designed to convert up to a centerfire pistol.

Beretta 87 - The .22 counterpart to the Beretta 84/85 in .380 ACP.

Last but not least are the .22 Mouse Guns.

Taurus PLY.
A very small semi-suto pistol with a polymer frame,,,
It is based on their Model 22B Beretta copy,,,
Very lightweight and easy to shoot,,,
It has a very nice grip.

I own, shoot regularly, and give a personal recommendation to these .22 pistols,,,
These six are all reliable shooters that aren't ammo picky (for me) at all.
Bersa Thunder 22,
Beretta Model 87,
CZ-75B Kadet,
Beretta NEOS,
Ruger 22/45,
Taurus PLY.

I also own a Phoenix HP-22,,,
It quit working after 150 rounds,,,
Two trips back to the plant in California.
As far as a functioning pistol goes, Mine is a very cute paper-weight.

I hope this helps,,,

Aarond

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I'm also a fan of the Ruger single six. However I'm very pleased with my Phoenix Arms HP22. The only issue is that it likes standard velocity rounds (as stated in the instruction manual). Also with the HP22, if you have a screwdriver, metal nips, and five minutes, you can take care of the "too many safeties" issue stated above. Check youtube for that one. :)
 

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since my earlier post i have spent a lot of time doing more research
yea i want a 617 and/or the sig 1911-22 but
i have chosen the ruger 22/45 5.5" bull barrel
my other short list was the S&W 22a, same price, but several people advised the ruger over it
also the buckmark was on the short list but it is $95 more
 

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Phoenix HP-22, Is junk. I got the 25 cal for my kid. Mail it to Mike the owner, For jamming. I get it back,Still jams,But now the arm for the trigger keep coming off. So they mail me a new one,With the handle plate.

So I call him back over the jamming of this new HP25, And he is telling me that,We are holding the pistol with one hand.Ok If your think that. I just told him it's ok this junk was for my kid that is 8,To get to know how to shoot a pistol.And the cost was 149.00. But I did tell him everyone will know from me you pistols are junk. And they are.

So I went back to my gun store,Let them know about it. And turn it in for a Walther P22 Pistol - Carbon Fiber Finish. Looks just like the pk380, My little girl loves it. P22 is one of the best looking 22cal out there. Barrel on p22 is 3.4,And not like most are at 5.5. 5.5 Way to long. To me that 5.5 barrel makes the pistol look funny. Like a toy look. p22 to me is the best one out there in a 22cal.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...ategory_rn=43326&top_category=43326&training=

SKU: WAP22400
Model: P22
Caliber: .22LR
Capacity: 10 Rounds
Length: 6.3" / 16.0 cm
Height: 4.5" / 11.4 cm
Frame Width: 1.1" / 2.8 cm
Barrel Length: 3.4" / 8.6 cm
Sight Radius: 5.3" / 13.5 cm
Weight (No Mag.): 15.1 oz. / 428.1 g
Standard Mag. Weight: 1.8 oz. / 51.0 g
Action: SA/DA
Trigger Pull: 4 lbs. / 11 lbs.
 

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Phoenix HP-22, Is junk. I got the 25 cal for my kid. Mail it to Mike the owner, For jamming. I get it back,Still jams,But now the arm for the trigger keep coming off. So they mail me a new one,With the handle plate.

So I call him back over the jamming of this new HP25, And he is tell me that,We are holding the pistol with one hand.Ok If your think that. I just told him it's ok this junk was for my kid that is 8,To get to know how to shoot a pistol.And the cost was 149.00. But I did tell him everyone will know from me you pistols are junk. And they are.

So I went back to my gun store,Let them know about it. And turn it in for a Walther P22 Pistol - Carbon Fiber Finish. Looks just like the pk380, My little girl loves it. P22 is one of the best looking 22cal out there. Barrel on p22 is 3.4,And not like most are at 5.5. 5.5 Way to long. To me that 5.5 barrel makes the pistol look funny. Like a toy look. p22 to me is the best one out there in a 22cal.
so you bought a $100 pistol that turned out to be junk? and you traded it in for a $400 pistol that is the best? why did you buy the $100 pistol?
 

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Ruger MK series or Browning Buckmark. Probably the best value out there. I have a Ruger MK3 (thanks for asking ;) ) You can spend more or less depending on what you want, but these are very popular and often recommended for a number of reasons.
Price- they hit that Goldilocks price point, not to much, not too cheap.
Quality- I suppose it's possible to wear them out. If you succeed, you will have more than gotten your money's worth out of them.
variety- Each is available in any number of configurations, mild to wild. Then there is the aftermarket...
Customer support- Ruger has a good reputation in this regard. I've not heard about Browning having a lot of problems (Not a lot of help, I know, sorry.)
 

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The BuckMark camper is excellent, if you want a target pistol. If you just want a 22 plinker a Bersa T22 is great and has a excellent price. See Buds Guns. They will ship to your LSG. You can also check Bersa at the Bersa Chat and get a lot of feed back from Bersa pistol owners.
 

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To teach my little girl and she is 8,It is very small for little hands. My bg380 was to much for her to hold for now. A lot of people keep telling me to get the hp22 hp25. It's life,I payed a low price for it.Thats what I get. but my friends Paul the owner,Was cool about taking it back, And taking off 125.00 bucks off the p22 for me..But I have picked up many pistols from his store to.
So he looks out for me. But for me to know pistols, I was dumb for picking it up.She like it to much.And my kid looked at so many that day over 10 to 12 pistol that day.And the hp25 is what she drive me up the wall over.

I have my kid in the NRA 4-H,She shoots a air arms rifle.177. And she ask me to teach her about pistols. If you need to know why I did it.

If you was me,I was on the phone with the owner mike, Over this hp25. And it my be a good pistol,And I just got a bad one. But he put a new slider on it to. And telling me he fires the pistol be for he mailed it back to me. I got to the range, I fried it 3 times,Back to the same thing. The pistol been fried by me 43 times.

I keep hearing him tell me it is how we hold the pistol. Omy... So I told him,So when I was in the navy,I was never told that ? And I all so teach 4-h kids,And I teach JMIC – JROTC Marksmanship Instructor Course. And I did know how to shoot a pistol. He did not know what to say anymore. So I just said,I'm junking the pistol. My bad for buying a low cost pistol. And life go's on. Have a good day.Ted
 

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The BuckMark camper is excellent, if you want a target pistol. If you just want a 22 plinker a Bersa T22 is great and has a excellent price. See Buds Guns. They will ship to your LSG. You can also check Bersa at the Bersa Chat and get a lot of feed back from Bersa pistol owners.
It's hard to go wrong with a Buckmark.:) I've only got about 1000 rounds through mine, but it's been a pleasure so far. A friend of mine has one that he's owned since 1986, put a large number of rounds through, and it seems happy with any ammunition he cares to use. Seems like a good example to me.
 

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Well I just returned home for my local gun dealer with a brand new Ruger MKIII 60th anniversary model (375.00). Can't wait:smt082 to get to the range tomorrow. Thank you, to all who gave their input! Mike
 

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i have a ruger single six that is a beautiful and extremeley accurate gun. I love it, and in my personal opinion its hard to beat. I also have a smith and wesson 22a and for the price of that gun it is also hard to beat. For well under 300 bucks out the door the smith is the way to go. My father in law has a ruger mk111 hunter i think is the model??? it has a fluted barrel and is an absolutely beautiful peice! It was a little more pricey but i would love to have a gun like his.
 
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