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    OMSBH44 is offline Member
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    PPK/S-1...Small boat anchor?

    I've about had it with my PPK/S-1. I have approximately 1300 rounds
    through it, mostly reloads, and it is getting worse, not better. If it didn't
    feel so good in my hands, I'd tape it to a big rock and drop it into the
    middle of Elephant Butte Lake.

    However, since it does feel so good in my right hand, I guess I'll keep it
    if I can find a good gun smith to fix it. I usually prefer to work on my guns
    myself, but I don't know enough about this type of gun to know where to
    attack it with my dremal tool. I'd probably make it worse.

    So, any one reading this know of a good gun smith who knows how to fix
    the S&W made PPK/S?

    Thanks!

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    How is it getting worse? Even a gunsmith can't go on a description that vague.

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    First, U should try more store bought ammo instead of reloads - to troubleshoot.

    Second, if the gun still doesn't work - contact S&W. They have great customer service. They should be able to help U.

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    Getting Worse

    Well, when I talk to a gun smith, I will certainly go into much more
    detail. What I mean is that it used to malfunction one in 30 or 35 rounds.

    On Tuesday last it jammed every other round.

    Using the Wolfe 24 lb. recoil spring, the cartridge ended up resting against
    the feed ramp, with the bullet just into chamber and the base of the
    cartridge still in the magazine. I have four magazines and it did it with
    all of them.

    To clear it, I had to drop the magazine and pull the slide to the rear to
    drop the live round out of the gun. The round comes out with a dent in
    the side where the slide hit it.

    Using the factory 20 lb. recoil spring, the slide would stop just out of
    battery. In this case, tapping forcefully on the rear of the slide would
    cause the cartridge to chamber fully.

    By the way, it did this both with Fiocchi factory round nose ammo and my
    hollow point reloads.

    As far as purchasing more factory ammo, I believe quite strongly that
    one should practice with what one carries. Furthermore, since I can't
    afford to practice with one dollar a round ammunition, all my guns must be
    able to shoot my reloads!

    I guess I'll have to contact S&W. If they wimp out, I'll be forced to look
    for another brand of concealable handgun. I might even go back to
    carrying a revolver!

    Talk to Y'all Later!

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    Exclamation Update

    I found an extra hour this afternoon and took my PPK/S-1 to the shooting
    range. I had 20 rounds of my reloads and 20 rounds of Winchester White
    Box flat points. They all fired! No problems! No jams of any kind!

    I'm back in business!

    What did I do? Well, I left the original recoil spring in place, and I switched
    lubricants. I put a bit of tetra grease on the rails and recoil spring. I used
    some Break-Free CLP on the other moving parts, like the trigger and
    hammer, and I dribbled a bit on the underside of the barrel and spring.
    Then I let it set for 24 hours.

    So, with this encouragement, I'll do some more reloading and get back to
    the range. It feels so good in my hand, I just can't bring myself to replace
    it. I sure hope it keeps on keeping on!

    L8'er, TP.

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    Yet another case of "a good cleaning and lubing does wonders"...

    I just like cleaning mine...

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    Smile Lubrication

    I try to clean my guns after every shooting session. I'm not so sure the
    positive result came more from the different lubrication, which I'm sure
    helped, or more from the return to the factory recoil spring.

    Whatever the cause, it worked well. Now if I can get it to repeat the
    result with my next batch of reloads, I'll be in seventh heaven.

    I sure didn't know that Walther handguns could be so sensitive to
    different ammunition. Had I know, I might have had second thoughts
    about getting a PPK/S. This gun is either going to work with my reloads, or
    it is going to get a new owner!

    L8'er, TP

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    I bet it's the spring. These types of pistols are pretty delicately balanced machines. It's like a lot of springs in stasis.

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    I love a story with a happy ending. As long as the pistol shoots reliably, I tend to think the spring might have been the culprit.
    I wish you many hours of trouble free shooting.

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    I have a ppk stainless by S&W in 32... The only issue i ever had was one day i would pull the trigger and the hammer wouldn't move anymore.. (Very bad) not sure i'd ever rely on it to be a cary gun with that kind of performance.. Anyways I sent it back into s&w after about 4 weeks i got her back.. she works great again.. Aside from .32 being audiaciously as expensive as .45 its a fun little gun. I use break free on ALL my guns and never have problems with jams and such.. I put it on all moving parts and a small light amount all over the barrel before puting the recoil spring on.

    Good shooting!

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    My wife has a PPK/S and I have a Bersa Thunder 380. The Walther is prettier but the Bersa is a very good little pistol, especially for the money. We used to shoot our 380's a lot but now they are mostly safe queens. 380 ammo is pretty expensive, not a great self defense round, and not all that much fun to shoot. 9mm ammo is still fairly reasonable, packs a better punch and is what we shoot a lot when not throwing large chunks of money down range in the form of 45, 40 caliber or 357 magnum.
    If I ever quit clinging to my guns and decide sell (which is doubtful) any of my pistols it will be the 380's.

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