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    Quote Originally Posted by PanaDP View Post
    We're in very similar situations. I'm 3 months out of college. Still poor :P


    PanaDP:

    Don't feel like the "Lone Ranger".. I'm 480+ months out of college, and still poor also..

    But, I digress:

    I have both the P99c/AS and P99AS, both in 9mm.. It is my opinion after over 50 years of firearms ownership that the current crop of quality self defense 9mm ammunition offers excellent stopping power, and quite frankly if the average person (non-leos & related fields) carrying a pistol for personal defense and can't stop a bg with 10+1 9mm HP Corbons, (or the round of your choice) he/she wouldn't be any better off with a larger caliber firearm.

    My P99c/AS is VERY accurate. Any personal confrontation would logically be at 5' or less, and statistics show that the vast majority of such confrontations ending in the use of lethal force occur extremely quickly, at a very close range, very few rounds are expended....

    So I prefer the 9mm because I can afford the ammo to practice with, and have no doubt that at self defense range I can place many rounds in the center mass of the threat..

    I think "more shooting" is a good thing as it increases your comfort level with the firearm, and hopefully improves your aim...

    Congratulations already on choosing the "AS" (Anti-Stress) version of the P99 as it is absolutely fantastic and the 1st round shot at DA of 8.8lbs offers you a bit of protection from ad/nd's.

    If the difference between the 9mm and 40cal is worrysome to you I recommend you try and shoot both before you buy. I like the low recoil and fast follow up shots of the 9mm, but what works for me might not necessarily be what you prefer..

    Best Wishes,

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    U want a 9mm P99 A/S with a hard chrome slide


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    U want a 9mm P99 A/S with a hard chrome slide

    That's sweet, Shipwreck. My 9mm itch is soon to be scratched, though (I think). My Dad got an XD (4-inch service) in 9mm and he's giving it to me when I get up there for Thanksgiving. He just doesn't shoot it. If I like it I'll stick with that, though I still really want a P99.

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    Shoot the XD9, you'll love it!

    I'm dumping my .40 for a 9mm in subcompact. I don't think I'm giving up much in stopping power, and in a 3" barrel, gaining control and accuracy with follow-up shots.

    In a full size gun, the .40 is fine... but then you bring in the .45 option.

    I'm begining to feel that .40 cal is like a mini-pickup... Not a full size pickup... you can't carry big crap. But it's not a sports car... it's too slow.

    If you're going full-size, NOBODY would argue with a .45, and the Military contract has brought them all out...

    If you're going compact (3" or less) you're talking a close-quarters concealment gun. Take the 9mm. At close range, where most gun-fights happen, it's all you'll need. And in a short barrel it is more controlable.

    I've shot everything from a snubby/pocket 380 to a 10" .50AE. I'm downsizing my collection to 9mm compacts, and .45 full sizes. They all penetrate/stop a human similarly... For defense, it's what is automatic, innate, ingrained... That's the gun that you enjoy practice with, but isn't too awkward to carry.

    First rule of a gun fight.... Have a gun.

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    I think that 9mm has plenty of stopping power. I would handle the gun as much as u can I have both the xd-45 and p99 AS 9mm I shoot the 9 alot because of ammo cost the walther doesnt fit my hand nearly as well as the xd however I shoot them both the same. I actually prefer the XD alot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanaDP View Post
    That's sweet, Shipwreck.
    Thanks! I like the hard chromed slide

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    This was my big decision...9mm or .40? I ended up choosing the .40 for several reasons:

    A) Recoil does not bother me. It does affect aiming for following shots, but all that does is prompt me to practice more than I would with a 9mm.

    2) Simply put, it's bigger. If a .45 is bigger than a .40, a .40 is bigger than a 9mm. Even if it's just a little bit, it's still there. You could start with a .22, then say, "well a .25 is just a bit bigger." Then you consider a slightly bigger round, and keep going, well then you hit .45. In other words, a slight increase in bullet diameter counts for something. If it didn't, several increases put together wouldn't count for anything.

    D) This is a pretty lame reason, but EVERYONE goes out and gets a 9mm so they can say, "yeah I got me a NINE." I am a non-conformist, so therefore I like having something different. Flame all you want for that one.

    16) You can rebarrel for a smaller size, but not larger size. I could change to a 9mm configuration in the .40 if I ever felt the need, but you can't do it the other way around.

    X19) I find it a lot easier to count in sets of eight rather than ten. It's kind of hard to explain, but I'm very musically inclined, and in most music you count in fours, as most measures have four counts. So since I was barely able to walk and surrounded by music, I learned to count in multiples of four. It's engraved in my skull. Yes, I can count to ten. But I prefer to count in multiples of four, and I like to keep track of how many rounds I have in the magazine. I don't like relying on the slide locking back to let me know I'm empty.

    258) Not a reason for choosing the .40, but a reason for appreciating it. The front diagonal portion of the slide on the 9mm has an indentation before it reaches the end, where the .40 does not. I didn't notice it 'til after I got the .40, but personally I think the P99 is way more attractive with the slide diagonal staying flat all the way to the muzzle.

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    [QUOTE=fivehourfrenzy

    D) This is a pretty lame reason, but EVERYONE goes out and gets a 9mm so they can say, "yeah I got me a NINE." I am a non-conformist, so therefore I like having something different. Flame all you want for that one.
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    fivefourfrenzy:

    Respectfully I don't think anyone really cares which caliber you prefer, and doubt seriously if anyone is going to "flame you" for preferring the 40cal..

    I think on this Walther forum we are all Walther lovers, so the only criteria you have to have to make us happy is wanting a Walther in general, and for Shipwreck (hope I can speak for him) and myself the Walther P99/AS in particular.

    I personally prefer the 9mm round, not because I think it's a "better" round that a 40cal round of the same type, but because I like to shoot my pistols a lot, and 9mm is cheaper than 40cal.

    I don't feel undergunned with 15+1 rounds of 9mm CorBon so my need for adequate firepower is satisfied.. You prefer the 40cal, a reasonable preference. and that's why the pistol is manufactured in both calibers anyway..

    Best Wishes,

    J.Pomeroy

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    I'd agree with all of that. The increased price of ammunition for the .40 didn't outweight the advantages, at least not for me. I think the biggest deciding factor is shooting comfort, and for some people, the .40 has too much recoil to shoot comfortably and enjoyably. To each his own.

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    fivehourdrenzy,

    I noticed your tat is a 9mm while you prefer the 40S&W.

    I too prefer the 40 in a full size P99, but the 9mm in the P99c. Love them both, and I do not feel the recoil is that different.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Martini13 View Post
    fivehourdrenzy,

    I noticed your tat is a 9mm while you prefer the 40S&W.

    I too prefer the 40 in a full size P99, but the 9mm in the P99c. Love them both, and I do not feel the recoil is that different.


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    Yup, so now I got both! I had the tattoo done in the 9mm versus the .40 so I could yank my shirt up and show people my 9. But for the real thing, I chose the .40. I put 300 165gr rounds through it today. I could barely hold a pen when I was done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    ... I could barely hold a pen when I was done.

    Well, I always heard the pen is mightier that the sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James NM View Post
    Well, I always heard the pen is mightier that the sword.
    "Thanks to me, they were right!" ~Q from Goldeneye

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    Quote Originally Posted by James NM View Post
    Well, I always heard the pen is mightier that the sword.
    Unless you're in a sword fight.

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