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    30.06 signs

    Anyone in Spring or Woodlands area actually see one of these anywhere. I have kept my eyes open for 1 so I know for sure what it may look like and have not seen one. If you have seen one where is it so I can take a peak at a place I wont do business.

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    I'll bite..What are these signs?

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    In Texas, you are legal to carry everywhere but a few specified places, unless a 30.06 sign is posted. It's a slang term based on the number of the regulation that describes what the sign has to contain. If someone posts a no firearms sign that doesn't adhere to the 30.06 description, you don't have to obey it.

    I have never actually seen one that is near enough to being correct that I felt obligated to obey it, except at a gun show. If I ever do see one at a business, I will no longer do business there.

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    You guys are so lucky. Any busniness here can scrawl "No Guns" on a box top in Crayola crayon and it carries legal weight. No requirements for size or location. Yet another reason why I can't wait to get back FL.

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    I was curious (and I have a friend living in Texas, so just in case I ever visit him....)...here's the official requirement. Note that it has to be in Spanish as well as english.

    http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis...ignposting.htm

    and I found this as an example of a correct sign...

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    The indoor range where I took my CHL test has a sign posted on the front door that says something to the effect of "no loaded guns beyond this point." Yet, they stressed, in their own classroom, that a sign could be disregarded if it did not adhere to 30.06, so obviously they were only targeting the inexperienced, and were unconcerned about anyone who had been through the CHL training, who would naturally ignore the sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisley View Post
    The indoor range where I took my CHL test has a sign posted on the front door that says something to the effect of "no loaded guns beyond this point."
    The indoor range I shoot at has the same thing. Basically they just don't want loaded guns in the lobby. I really don't blame them. I'm sure they have enough liability issues as it is.

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    I do know the requirement but have yet to see one that states 30.06 or any other requirement by law. Yes we are lucky I guess because the law has to be followed to be correct and crayons that say no guns don't mean didly in this great state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpdtc
    I do know the requirement but have yet to see one that states 30.06 or any other requirement by law.
    Stop by your local hospital. I'd be willing to bet they have correct signage posted. All the ones here in San Antonio do anyway. Hospitals posting has become more of a problem since I'm going through some medical stuff right now and have to have blood tests done weekly. Almost all the centers I use are now located in a hospital building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mactex View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dpdtc View Post
    I do know the requirement but have yet to see one that states 30.06 or any other requirement by law.
    Stop by your local hospital. I'd be willing to bet they have correct signage posted. All the ones here in San Antonio do anyway. Hospitals posting has become more of a problem since I'm going through some medical stuff right now and have to have blood tests done weekly. Almost all the centers I use are now located in a hospital building.
    Good idea. I will do that this weekend.

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    30-06 and hospitals...

    ...many hospitals post on the front door...but there are often side doors that are open to the public which are not posted.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdog View Post
    ...many hospitals post on the front door...but there are often side doors that are open to the public which are not posted.....
    so...does that make the sign on the front door void? Since all the entrances aren't posted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdog View Post
    ...many hospitals post on the front door...but there are often side doors that are open to the public which are not posted.....
    That's like one of our local malls. The general mall entrances are posted, but none of the anchor stores are and nor are there any signs when you leave the anchor stores and enter into the rest of the mall.

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    I have recently noticed signs at Walmart that say something to the effect of "no unlicensed carry of firearms" is permitted on the premises, which I actually think is kind of cool. To me, that simply means, "licensed carry of firearms welcome." I mean, what other purpose could they possibly have, since a person carrying illegally will ignore such a sign, anyway?

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    Wink 30-06

    Quote Originally Posted by bruce333 View Post
    so...does that make the sign on the front door void? Since all the entrances aren't posted?
    they must post every entrance open to the public or you saw no sign...that's the law...you can't slip in the delivery door, though...that would only work if you had business there...

    ...keep in mind...this is Texas ONLY.....

    ...Wallyworld began posted...then dropped them...some are now posted with what you say...some are not at all...they generally don't like guns in the store...would escort you to the front door when you bought one...concealed means concealed...a lot of big corporations...the rule I follow is DON'T ask and DON"T tell...because, in Texas, they can orally notify you and it sticks...I don't neeeeeed to know.....
    Last edited by sheepdog; 11-25-2009 at 04:34 PM. Reason: clarity

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    I have heard in the past that on the corporate level, Wally World is fine with CCW, but the managers of the stores are the ones who take it upon themselves to post. Apparently the "remedy" is to call the corporate office and complain and the sign should come down.

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    I hope...

    ...that continues to be the case since most have stopped carrying firearms and the ammo stock dwindles quickly...yet the clerks say the warehouses are loaded...I fear lawyers are making them nervous...like happened to KMart...time will tell....

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    I went to the doctor the other day and I did see a legal 30.06 sign on the main entrance. Funny as there are really 2 main entrances there and only 1 had the sign.
    I have seen several "the unlicensed carry of a handgun" signs in quite a few places. I agree as they are saying if you can carry legally you are welcome here.

    Something I thought about when at Wally World looking for ammo the other day. Should I be carrying if I am purchaseing ammunition? What your thoughts?

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    Thoughts

    ...I'd go in the door at the Dr's office which was not posted...if challenged later...tell them that there was no sign...and ask them if they really want to have you find another doctor???

    ...Wallyworld...there's no reason why you shouldn't buy ammo while armed...concealed here in Texas...noone would know you had the weapon with you...and if the clerk asked...I'd just say "How rude!!" and go on with my purchase....we are not doing anything wrong...don't let them put you on the defensive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpdtc View Post
    Should I be carrying if I am purchaseing ammunition? What your thoughts?
    ???what difference would it make? None...

    I do know that if you buy a rifle/shotgun at WM they won't let you buy ammo for it at the same time. They will escort you out to your car, then you can go back in and purchase ammo.
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