i see it's been a while since your post but fyi - the firing pin on my judge broke while dry firing, called taurus and shipped back under their account and got fixed gun back in 3 days.
Originally Posted by Baldy
After reading all the defects you guys have wrote,it sounds awful.
Then again a lot of the faults sound like human error.Not all of course.
I have 3 Taurus weapons.A .44 Mag Tracker,a Judge,and the Millinium Pro.
I have nothing but good things to say about them.The .44 Mag can lock
up if the bullets are too long.If the bullets are extending out the end of the cylinder?They're too long.Re-loaders have to watch this.Some factory ammo is also too long for the .44 Mag.I never dry fire
my weapons.This may or may not be a quality issue.I just don't do it.
The cylinders on these revolvers have to be brass brushed and cleaned
when new out of the box.They come with a little gunk coating in them.
If not the bullets won't go all the way in causing cylinder jams.The casings will also be hard to eject,due to no room for expansion.Brass or nylon brushes have to be a part of your
gun cleaning vocabulary if you own these particular weapons.Proper care,and a little common sense.Of course they are man made,so anything can break,but I think they have a long life if taken care of.My opinion.
The title of the thread is Taurus revolver problems ....I want details.
He was asking for people to telling him bad stuiff about Taurus reveolvers. I am not a fan of threads that ask for bad reviews. But thats just me .
Own Both Auto and Weel Gun
My wife is the handgunner in the family. She owns both a 357 revolver and a 380 auto. The revolver has been a dream, it shoots and functions flawlessly. Four inch ported barrel eight shot. The auto is another story, it has not worked from the start. It will only chamber Rem ammo, all others fail to chamber and even have to be pried from the barrel! The factory states this will go away after about 200 rounds! I'm skeptical about that. And why doesn't it work right from the start?
I have heard from gunsmiths that Taurus revolvers are o.k. but the autos are problems. I guess they are right.
I only own the one simi-auto.The Millinium Pro Pt-111 9M.M.
I'm super satisfied with it.I carry it on occasion.They make
a much thiner,lighter version now.It's a great shooting pistol.
As far as the .380 ?I have the Ruger LCP .380.Sweet little
carry pistol.I may someday write some bad news on my Taurus revolvers .
As of now?No news is good news.
I now have only the M44 left. The PT1911 fell apart, sold the PT99 and the PT145. Now I have a Les Bear and DW Valor for 1911's and Sig 226 and 220 elite for sa/da defense guns. The M44 is retired since I now have 3 Smith 629's.
Originally Posted by oak1971
Since this old thread was resurected i will reply (again??). I have had a model 94 for over 20 years with NO problems. I bought a model 605 (used) last year. no problems... until recently. Now let me finish. This has become one of my 2 main carry guns, in a (self made) kydex tuckable holster. All last fall winfter carried over tank top, under short sleeve, tucked. No Problems. Carried in to june/july (when i went to P3AT in pocket)...but not with tank top.
Wiped pistol down and put it in drawer.
pulled it back out. carried.. sweated. got pinched by hammer on bare skin. Bought new hammer to bob. Decided to re shape hammer (smaller spur, rounded, even with sides of hammer) and install it. Did so. started having cylinder rotation problems. Looked at it over next few months (and retired it from carrying until i figured it out). Was ready to replace original hammer, when the light bulb went off. The cylinder wouldnt rotate after reloading.... unless i closed it with some force, then it worked every time (only a temporary hic-cough otherwise on 2 cylinders, but NOT ok in a carry gun for me).
I finally cleaned and lubed a number of parts (again). cylinder release pin (not thumb release, inside shroud), the spring loaded part at back of spawl (sorry no tech name on this for me). Better but not good.
then I removed the cylinder release latch, and discovered... (remember that sweated and stuck in drawer) sweat crud and slight rusting UNDER the release latch (internal). cleaned/ lubed. tested. tested some more, repeat above till no failures in 100-150 repeats (remember open close pull.. each cylinder.. 100-150 times). Problem fixxed.
Problem. My fault... i didnt clean it well enough at a point wher i KNEW it was exposed to sweat and dust etc. (yess mine is SS, irrelevant on the internal part)
Solution, do what i should have done, clean and lube.
Result.. my favorite (2nd favorite, changes sometimes depending on wardrobe) carry arm is back out of retirement.
My buddy and I just today each bought a Taurus 990SS6 Tracker 6.5" .22 LR. I have a couple other Taurus revolvers (model 85 and model 941) which operate reliably. Both of these Trackers are junk and will be going back to the dealer tomorrow, hopefully for a refund, or at least shipped back to Taurus for repair (though I don't hold my breath about actually repairing them... we'll take our loss and trade them off at first chance). Both have the cylinder lock up in either DA or SA mode after firing a few rounds. Not sure what's causing it. The front cylinder gap is large (by most standards but pretty usual for Taurus) at .007" so it probably isn't binding up on the front. It appears to be a head-gap problem to me. It makes the guns totally useless in my opinion. I won't fight them on the target range. I'll give the problem to someone else that liked Taurus. I used to be a Taurus fan (having owned many of their rifles) until today. But getting two identical guns with the same problem leads one to believe all new Taurus revolvers are JUNK. Also, they do misfire a lot (using brand new ammo, two different brands). I was thinking about getting a Judge, but after researching the internet, I've found a lot of other people with the same cylinder lock-up problem on the .22s that I'm having and also a lot of people with Judge problems. My advice is pay more money for a S&W, and stay away from Taurus revolvers
spidie-I bought a few of my guns from a place that I can't return them to.
I have to send them back to the manufacturer for repairs if they need repair.
I'd certainly send them back and get them right.New revolvers right out of the box
should work.As far as the Judge review?I have one and love it.I shoot the
Federal handgun 000 Buckshot through it.All I can say is "awesome".
Taurus changed my mind
I recently purchased a brand new 44 tracker. The Gun arrived with several defects. The worst being the hammer rubbing a grove into the frame (top-right). The grip was torn, not once, not twice, but 9 times all the way through to the inside.
I called them immediately. They were real polite and sent a Fedex guy to my house the next day. The gun left with a detailed letter describing the problems. I received the gun back today in worse shape than when it left. The grip was not replaced, same grip with all the tears. They left a noticeable mark in the hammer trying to center it, but it looks like they went the wrong way and made the rubbing even worse. Oh yah.... it came back with greasy and dirty finger prints all over the grip barrel, and frame :eek:.
I'm afraid to send it off again for fear of it getting worse!!!
I love my target 22 Tracker 6.5", it has been a great handgun, the very reason I purchased this one. The finish, action, and tolerances, were nothing like this 44, having the same frame, grip, and cylinder. They sure went down hill the last 10 years.
I once defended Taurus, but I now see the light and grieve with all the others who have purchased these piles of crap. Where the heck do they get their gun smiths. I'm madder than an old red hen, and I better quite before I get censored.
I picked up a 617 for my wife for the holidays. It's a 2" 7-round .357 snubbie with a short grip. It kicks like a mad mule with the .357 but is actually controllable and run with .38 (I want the 4" version of this one). It has a fixed front sight and a channel for the rear, so it's definitely nothing near accurate beyond a few yards, but it's perfect for the misses. No safeties, switches or anything to worry about under stress; just point and shoot.
I have a Taurus 85 that was purchased new. It started binding with the fist few rounds and I found pieces of the rubber grip seam under the grip. I removed the small pieces and it worked fine for a while. Now it is binding again. Clearance between the cylinder and forcing cone is adequate and the ammunition is OK. (148 grain wadcutters over 3 grains of Bullseye seated flush.) There are no high primers and I'm convinced the problem is inside the mechanism. Since Taurus has a lifetime guarantee on this gun I'm replacing it as a carry gun and returning it for repair. I am equally unhappy with my Taurus Millenium.
650 horror story
Here's my Taurus horror story:
Bought a model 650 new a few years back. Put about 500 rounds thru it. It starts misfiring and the barrel is canted.
Sent it to Taurus. That cost $75. They replaced the firing pin and straightened the barrel.
Got 13 more rounds thru it and the transfer bar breaks. (That's not 13 thousand rounds or 13 hundred rounds, just 13 rounds) I ordered that and replaced it myself for less than $10.
Got 287 more rounds thru it and the barrel is canted again. This time I'm making an action wrench insert from a blank for $40 and straightening the barrel myself.
That's about $120 in repairs (so far) for a $350 pistol with less than 1000 rounds down the pipe.
Anything else breaks, I'm cutting it in half and throwing it in the trash. I'll never buy another Taurus, that's for sure.
Well I've been holding off commenting until I got some rounds through this 608..
Last month I picked up a new 608 6½".
The only problem I had with it, was three of the eight chambers had difficulty accepting ammunition. I traced the problem to the ejector not being polished out completely and not lining up with the chamber. With the help of a Dremmel Tool and a mild abrasive wheel, problem solved.
The positive part of this gun is it shoots great! And I'm having a lot of fun with it.
I recently purchased a Taurus 650 CIA .357 magnum. The first trip to the range I fired 2 shots with .38 specials and the cylinder would no longer turn. I tried again and again with different ammo and experienced the same problem. I phoned Taurus and they would not send a call tag and made me pay for the shipping to have a brand new gun repaired. I sent it for repair, and it came back with the exact same problem. I took the gun to my dealer, he sent it back to Taurus for the 2nd "repair". It came back scratched on the side, and with chipped blueing where they had removed a punch pin without care. I took it to the range, loaded it, and the cylinder would not close when loaded. I tried 4 different types of ammo and none worked. It currently is on it's way back to Taurus for the 3rd time. They claim that they are going to replace it with a new gun. We'll see. So far I've spent $ 350 on the gun, $72.02 on shipping charges to have a brand new gun "not repaired", and along the way have been treated with disrespect and indifference by Taurus. I own 3 other Taurus guns that have been okay, but this one has taught me the "Taurus lesson". The lifetime warranty does not cover shipping and it is expensive to ship guns for repair. Taurus does not have good customer service or repair department. It may in fact take a lifetime until they are done with it. I'll never purchase another Taurus firearm based on this experience. So there is your reliable, close-at-hand experience with Taurus problems. Do yourself a favor and get a S&W or a Ruger. You won't be disappointed. Taurus model 650 CIA - Problems! thread http://www.predatormastersforums.com...70#Post1914670
I wish I would have read this first. Just picked up a Taurus 605, 25 rounds and cylinder will not lock, release appears to be stuck in open positon. Cleaned and cleaned- no luck. Time to ship back to the factory I guess.
Now the Glock Model 31 was a different story.....
Should have never sold my Ruger.....
Last edited by JNC; 08-08-2011 at 10:34 AM.
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Taurus Tracker .357 w/4 in. ported barrel.
Bullet debris 3-4 mm in size embedded in my face after firing. Loads of copper jacket debris around the barrel just just forward of where the cylinder lines up. I kept that gun spotless clean and didnt have a problem until around 500 rounds down range. Gunsmith told me it was now a paper-weight.
I have had no problems with several Taurus revolvers and nothing but problems
with the 2 taurus Semi Autos I was dumb enough to buy. After sending both back to
Taurus twice (with looong wait times) I traded both away for other weapons.
Both the semi autos were bought new. PT145 and a 709. Both jammed, FTF, FTE
you name it. And I don't limp wrist so that's not it. Slide jammed in the 145 and
local smiths couldn't fix. 709 hammer would lock up.
I like Taurus revolvers I have several .22 mod 94 .22mag mod941 .357 mod 608. This 608 6.5in. compensated barrel was as smooth as the best, very good trigger fine polish and blue and shot exceptionaly well with any thing I fed it My wife carries a mod 85 ul .38 spl. Very satisfied with Taurus revolvers. Will never buy another Taurus auto. thats another story.
^ will gladly buy ANY piece of crap taurus pistol for piece of crap prices, passing your garbage off on the next guy is dishonest unless you tell him its junk.
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