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    TAURUS IS JUNK????? Mine has not yet not go BANG when it was suposed to. Trust my life to it? You bet. If I didn't trust it, I wouldn't still own it. I just wish I could find a PT 908 for CCW.
    I'm not a "striker" kind of guy, so all those models, all brands, just don't interest me.

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    Yesyesyesyesyes

    Presently, both my CC handguns are Taurus: a PT145 and a snubby 650 357 mag. Both are surprising accurate and 100% predictable: pull the trigger and it fires! With the 650, I prefer to practice with 38, because shooting 357 mag in it is painful. But I won't care about a little pain in my aging right wrist if I HAVE to pull the trigger on one or more rounds of 357 in defense. The PT145 is plenty powerful against 2-legged aggression, and it is painless and controllable. Yes, it jumps, but not so much that it doesn't come back on target quickly.

    I also have a Ruger in 357 mag, a S&W in 45, and a new Glock in 10mm. Also a little H&R in 32 and a bigger one in 22 - both oldies. That's a collection of very different guns, but I likes em all! Time for a 9mm! I'd be glad to buy a Taurus PT111, in fact!

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    The answer is YES. I own a PT92 with at least 10 ten thousand rounds through it, and it is 100% reliable. I've worn out three sets of rubber Pakmyrs on that gun and it never let me down!

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    well i am a new owner of a PT 24/7 9mm and have been to the range 6 times, my weapon has yet to not give me the blessed "crack"! and each time ive gone ive burned through 200 rounds, single and rapid. Key IS cleaning! so i trust mine till it gives me a reason not to!(which i dont foresee happening)

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    Most peoples bias to a Taurus is the fact that they are made in Brazil. I have had people tell methat they would never own one due to that reasin alone while shooting a Springfield that if they looked was also made there. I have a Springer 1911 9mm stainless that says it. I would rather have a Taurus than several other brands that some people just think are the cats ass. Bottom line is they are making a few really good guns these days. and that PT1911 is really nice. my stainless pt1911 out shoots many other "H- Dollar" guns every time I pull it out of the box. Look at what they are putting in them. I'll take it over the Smith in a heartbeat. It shoots as well as my Springfield 1911. Match trigger, match barrel, the fit slide to frame is better than most colts and even a lot of Kimbers I've seen. They usually come with some but ugly plastic grips but that is easilly delt with. My Colt did too..lol
    I'd trust my live to this one


    Those are buckeye burl grips by the way..pretty cool looking I thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by mactex View Post
    I have no experience with their pistols, but I would trust their newer revolvers without hesitation.
    mine doubles as a home/car defense system. I wouldn't think twice about it's reliability

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    Some of you guys sound as though you think that a Jennings is better than a Taurus. I wish ya'll would grow up. True, Taurus is not a Yuk(Glock) or Kimber, or HK, or Khar, BUT, as it has been said before, there will be problems with ANY brand from time to time. PLEASE, PLEASE, grow up! Your's is not the best just because you have one and all the rest is junk. In my opinion, Taurus is a fine, reliable, gun and yes I would trust my life to one. I had a MilPro 140 and screwed up and sold it to buy something I ended up not liking and sold also. The MilPro never failed me. I read somewhere, "Trust the gun you have, It's better than the one you don't!"

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    SOme of you guys act like Brazil is a third world country and they're churning these guns out over a wood burning fire and an anvil. Brazil is a modern industrial nation and probably has a lot more pride in their production than the US does today.

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    As per the original question----probably--but it would be the PT-1911!

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    Give it a rest. The one you own is always better than the others. And remember, just because it costs more doesn't make itr better. I would like to see a you buy any other brand of 1911 with the out of the box features of the PT1911 for what a Taurus costs...and there aren't many if any that would out shoot it or prove more reliable out of the box. Give me a cheap reliable Taurus over a high priced "jam-o-matic" anyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanaDP View Post
    Brazil is a modern industrial nation and probably has a lot more pride in their production than the US does today.
    Is this to say that Brazil can compete with the US in manufacturing very high-quality goods? No country can claim that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    Is this to say that Brazil can compete with the US in manufacturing very high-quality goods? No country can claim that.
    No country can do that?

    How about Germany? Switzerland? The Nordic countries. The list goes on. I am a patriot. But we don't have a magic monopoly on high quality production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    Is this to say that Brazil can compete with the US in manufacturing very high-quality goods? No country can claim that.
    I understand being full of patriotism but that statement is just ignorant. What about Japan, the country that has pushed forward digital electronics quite a bit faster than us? How about Germany's legendary mechanical instruments and automobiles? Swiss watches?

    I work in the movie industry and film cameras are one of the more beautiful and intricate pieces of mechanical machinery I know of. A new one costs between 50 and 100 thousand dollars, and that is only for the body. There are three countries with a manufacturer of motion picture cameras, only the smallest one is American. The others are French and German.

    Learn a little bit about the world past your borders. You'll be a better American and person for it.

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    Ok, I shall clarify. No one would claim that other countries don't produce high-quality products that don't in fact compete with American products on the world market. I like Walther pistols, which are certainly not American (well the P99 anyway).

    I am also not ignorant. I am an engineer and I work with nuclear power. The US leads the way in the advancement of nuclear power, although the France and Japan (AREVA and Toshiba) are very good as well. When I hear stuff like "The US can't build things as well as this country," I just have to say something. We can build as well as anyone. Naturally, all US companies don't turn out the best guns, optics, etc. in the world, but it is not due to a lack of capability.

    Consider Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Apple, and Google. Highly profitable companies which are on the cutting edge - and American. Also consider the jets, tanks, ships and so on used by the US military.

    So, yes, other countries compete with ours in the global market, but Americans can certainly be proud that we are in no way limited in our capabilities.

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    german engineering is propaganda

    i work in an automotive repair shop and i can tell you that half the german cars must have been engineered in the midst of octoberfest. I wouldn't touch a VW or Audi product with a ten foot pole. for the percentage of autos on the road we see a ton of german engineered cars come in for repair compared to probably any other country of origin. american manufacturing and design is quite good. people tend to glorify things that are imported no matter what country they are from. when i lived in venezuela american products were highly sought after. but in america we seem to downgrade our own products. and if you want to talk outright technology nasa and the U.S. armed forces are lightyears ahead of anything else.

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    no

    My 617 blew up in my hand. I will never own one again.

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    I have two PT1911. I would trust my life to either of them. Sure Taurus has had some ...not so great history but they are stepping up here lately.

    There was a time in the not so distant past that trusting your life to a S&W autoloader was not the wisest thing to do. Things change.

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    I have 4 taurus guns. A 608, M 44, 24/7 40cal, and a 444multi. And they all work fine for me. Although I havent put much rounds through them. They all the others go bang when i pull the trigger each time.
    I dunno, I think half of the negative hearsay & rumors are probably from folks who are just passing a long gossip. True enough I'm sure there are a lot of folks who have bad expiriences with their guns. But bad news travels way hell faster than good.
    I remember back in the late 90s, there was a photo floating around on the older now non-existent gunforums of a glock with a busted chamber ("kaboom") and all it took was for one guy to say his glock jammed when it happened. Man it must have been hundreds of guys popping up out ofthe blue saying glcks jam, they are crap, mine blew up, a buddy of mines gun fell apart, its plastic crap blah blah blah. Pretty much a blabber bandwagon it was.
    Who knows why that gun did that, overpowered hand load,obstructed chamber,etc.

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    I do not own a Taurus, but my father-in-law just picked up a PT-111 and I went with him to break it in Friday. It was pretty accurate right out of the box and performed without a hitch. From what I can tell it appears to be a well made, good performing gun. My local dealer was carrying the Taurus 24/7 when I was in there the other day and he is a retired 30 yr SWAT member and trainer. He owns a gun shop and can carry any gun and, at least for that day, trusted his life to the Taurus.

    Secondly, just because a gun is not made here does not make it inferior. I would put the Glock up against any pistol made for reliability (the true requirement for SD guns) and it is made in Austria. I also have a Kahr, which is made here, and a Rossi .357 (made in Brazil) that I have had for over 10 years. I would trust my life to any of my handguns and only one of the three are made in the USA. The Rossi is just as accurate and more comfortable in my hand as any of the Smiths (my dad has 3). He actually just sent his $800 scandium j-frame back to S&W for a rebuild because the frame cracked causing him to take shrapnel in the face. The S&W is a great gun, but any gun can have problems no matter where it is made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vernpriest View Post
    The S&W is a great gun, but any gun can have problems no matter where it is made.
    I think you hit it right on the nose there. It's just like anything else. People always ask me if certain car makes and/or models are more reliable than the others, and although there are some that are COMMONLY more reliable than the others, my answer is always "it depends on the car itself." That's usually the case. You either get a good one or a not so good one and although some makes/models are more likely to be not so good, that doesn't go for all.

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