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The Glock is built in Austria so how does where its made make a differance?

Originally Posted by recoilguy

The Glock is built in Austria so how does where its made make a differance?

A friend bought a Rock Island .45 1911 which is made in the Phillippines and cost only $350.00...a country known for cheap & low cost products

He found out it is not as reliable as a US made 1911.....jaming after every 5th round, he used different mags and ammo and nothing changed

Most products from Austria and europe are known for reliably, including guns

Just woundering if the gun from Brazil is like the 1911 from the Phillippines or the Glock from Austria

Billy

Glock, hands down, but don't expect it to be that much lighter than a 1911 with a fully loaded magazine.

Originally Posted by T-55A5

A friend bought a Rock Island .45 1911 which is made in the Phillippines and cost only $350.00...a country known for cheap & low cost products

He found out it is not as reliable as a US made 1911.....jaming after every 5th round, he used different mags and ammo and nothing changed

Most products from Austria and europe are known for reliably, including guns

Just woundering if the gun from Brazil is like the 1911 from the Phillippines or the Glock from Austria

Billy

Where something is made is not necessarily a reflection of the reliability you can expect.
XDs are made in Croatia (The other Europe). They are good guns. The Rock Island guns are, for the most part, pretty good. Your friend had a bad one, or there are other issues to be addressed.
Taurus seems to have more than their fair share of quality issues. This doesn't mean that all Brazilian made products are poo. Springfield sources many of their 1911 frames from there.
I don't buy into the whole "Euro Superiority" thing. Just because there are some very good European products out there, doesn't mean that all European products are in fact superior. Much of the added cost can be attributed to the Euro Zone labor costs, not inherant superiority.
Of the two, get the Glock. But ake a look at the S&W M&P.

Billy,

I own a taurus and a glock. In terms of reliability, glock beats taurus by a country mile. Taurus's are good for sporting and target uses, but don't trust your life to one.

Originally Posted by Overkill0084

Where something is made is not necessarily a reflection of the reliability you can expect.
XDs are made in Croatia (The other Europe). They are good guns. The Rock Island guns are, for the most part, pretty good. Your friend had a bad one, or there are other issues to be addressed.
Taurus seems to have more than their fair share of quality issues. This doesn't mean that all Brazilian made products are poo. Springfield sources many of their 1911 frames from there.
I don't buy into the whole "Euro Superiority" thing. Just because there are some very good European products out there, doesn't mean that all European products are in fact superior. Much of the added cost can be attributed to the Euro Zone labor costs, not inherant superiority.
Of the two, get the Glock. But ake a look at the S&W M&P.

The S&W M&P compact only fires the 9mm and .40...I want something that fires .45

Billy

No contest IMO. Go with the Glock.

Originally Posted by zebramochaman

No contest IMO. Go with the Glock.

Yes, get the Glock.

Money could come into play?The Taurus
Millinium Pro series of pistols are pretty good.
No real concerns.I have a Pro PT-111 9mm,
and love it.No jams ever.The price I suspect would
be a couple hundred dollars cheaper than the Glock?
Glocks in my opinion are ugly,but very reliable.
I would pick the Glock,simply because it is
battle proven.

Originally Posted by T-55A5

The S&W M&P compact only fires the 9mm and .40...I want something that fires .45

Billy

M&P45  .45ACP - Smith & Wesson

Product: Smith & Wesson M&P45c - Compact Size, Manual Thumb Safety

You may wish to double check that assertion.

Originally Posted by Overkill0084

Where something is made is not necessarily a reflection of the reliability you can expect.
XDs are made in Croatia (The other Europe). They are good guns. The Rock Island guns are, for the most part, pretty good. Your friend had a bad one, or there are other issues to be addressed.
Taurus seems to have more than their fair share of quality issues. This doesn't mean that all Brazilian made products are poo. Springfield sources many of their 1911 frames from there.
I don't buy into the whole "Euro Superiority" thing. Just because there are some very good European products out there, doesn't mean that all European products are in fact superior. Much of the added cost can be attributed to the Euro Zone labor costs, not inherant superiority.
Of the two, get the Glock. But ake a look at the S&W M&P.

Just because the 1911 made in the Philippines jammed does not mean that it was because it was Philippine made. This is again simple stereotyping. I have seen many 1911 made by Armscor in the Philippines outperform many of the foreign made guns during shooting competitions. In fact most members of the shooting community I met in the Philippines prefer the locally made 1911s because they are reliable. They just gobble any bullet.

As for the Taurus PT 140 I bought it because it was small and powerful. I started having serious doubts about its reliability. So I keep on firing it every weekend waiting for it to fail just to confirm the proverbial taurus bashing in the internet. It did not. It keep on firing without any hitch. The longer I punished it with all kinds of ammunitions the better it gets. I quess about 1000 rounds passed already in this diminutive monster. I have no doubt it will fire when I to draw it in the most unlikely event.

Watermelon vs a Glock...

Ice cube versus a glock...

apple sauce versus a glock...

THESE are all more realistic comparisons than Taurus vs Glock

Kimber Vs Glock........

Yup more realistic!

Originally Posted by freddex

Just because the 1911 made in the Philippines jammed does not mean that it was because it was Philippine made. This is again simple stereotyping. I have seen many 1911 made by Armscor in the Philippines outperform many of the foreign made guns during shooting competitions. In fact most members of the shooting community I met in the Philippines prefer the locally made 1911s because they are reliable. They just gobble any bullet.

As for the Taurus PT 140 I bought it because it was small and powerful. I started having serious doubts about its reliability. So I keep on firing it every weekend waiting for it to fail just to confirm the proverbial taurus bashing in the internet. It did not. It keep on firing without any hitch. The longer I punished it with all kinds of ammunitions the better it gets. I quess about 1000 rounds passed already in this diminutive monster. I have no doubt it will fire when I to draw it in the most unlikely event.

I love my PT140 as well. The SOB goes bang,bang,bang.................................."

I own a PT145 and use it as my CCW. Ive put well over 400 through it and never had a single jam or any other malfunction. ive had problems with a glock jamming. Put honestly its what you are comfortable with carrying

Some people buy a Taurus and never have a problem, too many others buy one and it never works right. Firearms and gambling don't mix. Buy the Glock.

I have a PT140 and it goes bang everytime. Glock's are for the in crowd.

Glock. If you're still not sure, then get the Glock.

With all the input I have received.... 75-80% going towards the Glock....... I have desided to go with the Glock

Half of those had both guns and the Glock was a better gun for self-defence

Billy

Originally Posted by T-55A5

With all the input I have received.... 75-80% going towards the Glock....... I have desided to go with the Glock

Half of those had both guns and the Glock was a better gun for self-defence

Billy

What 1911 do you have by the way?

I'm a satisfied Taurus semiautomatic pistol owner. My wife and I have never experienced reliability issues with our 24/7 DAO and DA/SA PT99 pistols. And my experience with their CS associates has been positive.

I've never owned a Glock, even though I once considered purchasing a G34. But since I reload and shoot both jacketed and cast bullets, I would need to buy an aftermarket barrel for it. Unsupported chambers make me nervous, and polygonal rifling nixes the use of cast bullets.

Originally Posted by ozzy

What 1911 do you have by the way?

Para 1911 GI Expert

Billy

I took my Glock to the gun range to test fire and while I was getting set up to go into the range I noticed a PT145 that could be rented

They had just received it and it had only 30 rounds through it , so I rented the gun to compare

I fired the Glock first and noticed after the first two rounds it has one fouth to one third less kick then my 1911 and I put all ten rounds in an area of five inchs..It fired smooth and good

Then came the Taurus....like the Glock, ten round mag....after the first two rounds I can say it kicks more then the Glock, but just under my 1911

The next five rounds were bad... jam, jam, stove pipe, jam, stove pipe...the last three went out clean

It's a new gun so I fired it again and this volly was worst....clean, jam, jam, clean, jam, stove pipe, jam, clean, jam,clean

I used the last 20 rounds in my Glock with one jam coming on the 19th round

Paying the extra $200 for the Glock was a good idea

I told the lady at the counter what the Taurus did and the first person that fired it said the same thing and different ammo was used

The Glock is a better gun

Billy