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    Buy what you want. The point of my warning and this thread was to show that there really ARE many, MANY other better options out there besides Taurus, because their quality generally sucks, and the customer service is as bad as slugging yourself in the head with a 2x4. If you disagree - that's fine. I'm not investing the time to find specific 92 model threads for you. I have already admitted that the ONLY model probably even worth having from taurus is their Beretta clone. But, in general, the fit and finish of these guns does not match that of Beretta.

    If you want one - feel free to get one. Hopefully, you won't have a problem. I'm not saying that every gun taurus makes is bad. But, one can read the above and make up their own mind.

    Some Taurus fans will defend the company to their death. And, that's their prerogative. The rest of us just stand and shake our head...

    All I have to say on the matter

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    Buyer Beware: Bought a PT145 in 2003. Wanted a Glock but couldn't afford the extra couple hundred bucks at the time. I actually really liked the PT145 for carry and when it worked shot great. After 300 rounds the trigger broke. $50 in fedex shipping and 2 months later got it back. I continued to be a supporter of thier product until last week. Now 5 years later and another 200 rounds the trigger breaks again. This time I'm requesting they just send me the trigger but I'm told its a restricted item. Now fedex wants $75 to ship. I'll wait until some town has a gun buy back here in the Socialist Republic of New Jersey and turn it in for trash. I will never own a Taurus again. I agree with Shipwreck, mine and my families life is worth more than a couple hundred bucks. I thank God the gun broke both times at the range. Tauras will not admid to a design flaw or quality issue. For a self defense gun you can't afford to take a chance. I've got plenty of guns with thousands of rounds fired and have never had a break. Now I'm looking to get what I originally wanted. Save a ton of money buying the Taurus- not.

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    My dad has been a gun dealer for 25+ years and says that he fixes more Taurus than any other brand combined. I guess if it's ONLY a range gun and you have the patience to send it back if needed then fine, go for it, you can save some money. But I would never gamble my family's lives on one.

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    I know I'm new to this thread forum, but, I still would like to toss my .02 in here... I hate to hear the negativity directed at Taurus, I have owned my PT92 since I turned 21 (5 years, yes I'm young) and I have never had an issue. I have probably put over 15k rounds through it without a problem, except cheap ammo jams. I HAVE used this gun to defend my home before and I honestly believe it not only saved my life, but my son and now ex-wife lives as well. It has stayed accurate and true the entire time I have owned it. Maybe I got lucky and got a winner, who knows? I have a couple friends whom I recommended Taurus to as well and they have nothing but praise for the brand. Would I ever buy a home defense gun and not extensively test it at the range? Hell's no. Will I still stand behind this gun? Definitely. I will defend any product that has done for me and my family what this gun has done.

    Like I said tho, this is just my .02... Take it as you want, but also keep this in mind. A lot of people who buy the Taurus brand are new to firearms and shooting in general. I sure as hell didn't know how to maintain a gun when I was new to guns and I'm willing to bet that a lot, not ALL, but a LOT of the issues that arise from these firearms are poor maintenance. I was lucky tho, my father taught me when I was 10

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    I own and have owned two Sigmas and a Bersa all very inexpensive and totally reliable, Sigma had some problems in early production but to their credit S&W fixed them and those pistols are now reliable.....Sig introduced the P250 and it had some issues early on and Sig fixed them and I own two and both are totally reliable right out of the box........Seems Taurus has a quality control issue for it to be this prevalent across so many models....Yes I own a 709 and yes it has already been back for ejection issues......JJ

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    Since the shippers imposed the overnight requirement I have shipped two guns back to the factory. Both Smith Jframes that were recent runs of "no lock." Both had somewhat short firing pins and with some ammo very faint strike on primer. But they did fire and Smith send me a mailer via internet and replaced firing pins. All at no cost to me.

    I call that customer service and it is worth the extra few dollars. At least when you can find a "no lock" handgun.

    How much does it cost to mail gun to taurus for repairs? I understand they will not pay postage or send you mailer to send it in for warranty work, is that correct?

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    Taurus paid my shipping both ways on my 709 and returned it in a reasonable time ....never said what they did to repair the problem though and I will sell it soon .......

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    I have owned four Taurus products in the past, one revolver and three pistols. The revolver was ok and worked fine for about four years until I traded it off. Of the three pistols I had, two were good and one totally sucked. Thats all I have to say about that.

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    i have limited experience with taurus, i had a old full sized 38 special that i really liked, but i could never find out what model or style it was, i assume it was about 10-15 years old. and i have a millennium pro pt145, which is my current concealed carry gun, i got it in almost-new shape, with less than 50 down the barrel. i have had no real problems out of the gun, except on the first couple rounds that i put through it, left stove-top brass on the ground. now with that being said after about 2 mags the problem resolved itself, and now theres probably around 500-700 through it with no ftf or fte and havent had a stove-top since that first encounter. so i might just have had some good taurus's or the models i've had are good ones etc... but either way my experience with taurus has been a pretty good one.

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    Nice thread Shipwreck


    The choice is yours people:
    Pay 200-300 for a Taurus, chances are if it doesn't fail after your first firing eventually you will have problems over time

    Pay an extra $50-100 for a Smith, Glock, Ruger, etc have the gun for 10+ years no little to no problems (used gun in these bands is better then a Taurus)

    And if that doesnt convince you, look at the machinework of a Tauras. Not very impressive

    Your money folks your choice

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    Taurus sucks is a understatement! I guess I'm the most optimistic person in the world (just anouther dumb ass really) I should have stopped with the stainless pt1911 that shoots 6 inches too low. Called out Taurus on that one and gave them the novak part # for the front sight to bring it within 2 inches at 20 yards. 6months later no part. big freakin suprise there. well I decided I wanted a .22 revolver to kick around. So I saw this 4inch 990 ss at my dealer. Mind you I love my ruger buckmark 2 with a red dot on it must have easy 5k rounds through it havent cleaned it properly in forever, Still shoots anytime anywhere. So back to my new toy looks really nice loaded it up 6 shots later cylinder bound tight. I had to pull the hammer back and rotate the cylinder at the same time!

    I shot winchester 555, cci , remington gold bullets. the winchester worked the best but still hung up. I talked to a young lady at taurus who told me take it to my dealer he can send it back. I filled out my prelog sheet and at my cost sent it back. got the gun back rather quick 2 weeks with a letter replaced broken trigger replaced broken hand. ok i'm excited its fixed. Not on your life! now it wouln't shoot but 3or 4 shots and bind tighter than ever. called taurus 3 times once I left a message to have a supervsor call me back. I finally got through to another young lady who sounded like she was in a wind tunnel! She said there was construction going on.I asked if Mickey mouse was there working on the guns for repair as mine is still broke. She told me no your gun is fixed we sent it back to you! No you stupid a@@ I have the gun and its worse than when I sent it. Ok we will send fed-ex between 12-5 to pick it up. I told her that wouln't do I work them hours. We can pick it up where you work. No I work for a school system no guns alowed. Bring back to the dealer he can send it back out.

    I told her how about I bring it to a gunsmith local. Yea tell him to call us goodbye. I took it to a good gunsmith and he shimmed and adjusted it and got it running to an aceptable level. mentime Mike from Taurus calls ext. 259 I told him this whole deal he said oh so sorry and we need the gun back to fix it no outside repairs are covered. well my gunsmith called him and explained what he did and how could it have been sent out twice not functioning properly? Well the bill from my smith was $50.00 cheaper than the shipping both ways so my smith asked mike in good faith send this guy something a t-shirt a coupon something he went through a lot he shouldn't have. Mike said so sad too bad maybe we can make it up to him in the future! my smith felt really bad about it and knocked 20 bucks off the bill. He will go far with his work!

    As far as taurus I sold 3 of my 5 and got 2 more sigs! No Mike at Taurus there woun't be a future with me. The lesson learned don't go with less quality firearms! and the way I now look at it Taurus guns aren't that much more cheaper than good quality guns. hoped this saved someone some grief! p.s. sig and cz are great people to work with!

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    i will gladly buy the crappy taurus guns out there..... since they are pieces of junk, i expect to pay junk prices..... please post what you have, and the price you want for the garbage gun you wanna sell. i will contact you for pics and ffl shipping.

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    ha the 990 did'nt last 100 rounds! back to locking up again.My smith is gonna try to look at it again,
    god bless him. Hey Ted just cause there junk don't think people are just gonna give them away. Most people work hard for what they got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeleinen1 View Post
    Nice thread Shipwreck


    The choice is yours people:
    Pay 200-300 for a Taurus, chances are if it doesn't fail after your first firing eventually you will have problems over time

    Pay an extra $50-100 for a Smith, Glock, Ruger, etc have the gun for 10+ years no little to no problems (used gun in these bands is better then a Taurus)

    And if that doesnt convince you, look at the machinework of a Tauras. Not very impressive

    Your money folks your choice
    Exactly - Yet, the Taurus guys will attack ya at some forums for even thinking of posting anything negative about their guns.

    But damn - ya get what ya pay for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom1911sigfreak View Post
    Hey Ted just cause there junk don't think people are just gonna give them away.....
    i see, they want me to pay for their mistakes...... figures...

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    Last time I looked at my checkbook I paid my own way. but still Ted it's heartbreaking to pay good money for something and have it go so badly. I now have just about as much money tied up in this little 990 as my cz-75! A bit crazy when you really think about it. I drove 75 miles today, once to my smith he told me up front he wants an hour more checkout time on the gun. At that point I drove back to my dealer and left it with him to send back to Taurus again. Lets see if third times a charm.

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    my offer stands, those who regret purchasing these piece of crap guns can contact me and we can work out a reasonable price based on the substandard quality of the weapon, not the price you were screwed into paying.

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    Thanks I'll think about it. Maybe Taurus will send me a new 990 then I can list it as new.

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    Hey Ted one last thing. how is it if getting my guns at cost plus 5% $2.00 transfer and 5% to Obama is getting screwed. I've been friends with my dealer a long time when I want something he gives me his jerry's sporting good book the prices are in there plain as day. anything used is $25.00 more than he took it in for. As far as i see it I sold 3 of my Taurus's got what I had into them,and upgraded 3fold in better guns. I still have the 990 that maybe (no will be fixed) by taurus. and a 627 that is running good.(so far) The only extra I put out was $30.00 To a smith that tried the best he could with what he had. Can't make chicken soup out of chicken shit! Oh and just a last little laugh I stopped at my dealer after work for a cold one and he had one of them new rossi rifles (made by Taurus)just got it today, all crome looked real nice felt good he told me turn it over when I did a large piece of crome was hanging off it.Just who does the QC at the factory?

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