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    Since the shippers imposed the overnight requirement I have shipped two guns back to the factory. Both Smith Jframes that were recent runs of "no lock." Both had somewhat short firing pins and with some ammo very faint strike on primer. But they did fire and Smith send me a mailer via internet and replaced firing pins. All at no cost to me.

    I call that customer service and it is worth the extra few dollars. At least when you can find a "no lock" handgun.

    How much does it cost to mail gun to taurus for repairs? I understand they will not pay postage or send you mailer to send it in for warranty work, is that correct?

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    Taurus paid my shipping both ways on my 709 and returned it in a reasonable time ....never said what they did to repair the problem though and I will sell it soon .......

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    I have owned four Taurus products in the past, one revolver and three pistols. The revolver was ok and worked fine for about four years until I traded it off. Of the three pistols I had, two were good and one totally sucked. Thats all I have to say about that.

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    i have limited experience with taurus, i had a old full sized 38 special that i really liked, but i could never find out what model or style it was, i assume it was about 10-15 years old. and i have a millennium pro pt145, which is my current concealed carry gun, i got it in almost-new shape, with less than 50 down the barrel. i have had no real problems out of the gun, except on the first couple rounds that i put through it, left stove-top brass on the ground. now with that being said after about 2 mags the problem resolved itself, and now theres probably around 500-700 through it with no ftf or fte and havent had a stove-top since that first encounter. so i might just have had some good taurus's or the models i've had are good ones etc... but either way my experience with taurus has been a pretty good one.

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    Nice thread Shipwreck


    The choice is yours people:
    Pay 200-300 for a Taurus, chances are if it doesn't fail after your first firing eventually you will have problems over time

    Pay an extra $50-100 for a Smith, Glock, Ruger, etc have the gun for 10+ years no little to no problems (used gun in these bands is better then a Taurus)

    And if that doesnt convince you, look at the machinework of a Tauras. Not very impressive

    Your money folks your choice

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    Taurus sucks is a understatement! I guess I'm the most optimistic person in the world (just anouther dumb ass really) I should have stopped with the stainless pt1911 that shoots 6 inches too low. Called out Taurus on that one and gave them the novak part # for the front sight to bring it within 2 inches at 20 yards. 6months later no part. big freakin suprise there. well I decided I wanted a .22 revolver to kick around. So I saw this 4inch 990 ss at my dealer. Mind you I love my ruger buckmark 2 with a red dot on it must have easy 5k rounds through it havent cleaned it properly in forever, Still shoots anytime anywhere. So back to my new toy looks really nice loaded it up 6 shots later cylinder bound tight. I had to pull the hammer back and rotate the cylinder at the same time!

    I shot winchester 555, cci , remington gold bullets. the winchester worked the best but still hung up. I talked to a young lady at taurus who told me take it to my dealer he can send it back. I filled out my prelog sheet and at my cost sent it back. got the gun back rather quick 2 weeks with a letter replaced broken trigger replaced broken hand. ok i'm excited its fixed. Not on your life! now it wouln't shoot but 3or 4 shots and bind tighter than ever. called taurus 3 times once I left a message to have a supervsor call me back. I finally got through to another young lady who sounded like she was in a wind tunnel! She said there was construction going on.I asked if Mickey mouse was there working on the guns for repair as mine is still broke. She told me no your gun is fixed we sent it back to you! No you stupid a@@ I have the gun and its worse than when I sent it. Ok we will send fed-ex between 12-5 to pick it up. I told her that wouln't do I work them hours. We can pick it up where you work. No I work for a school system no guns alowed. Bring back to the dealer he can send it back out.

    I told her how about I bring it to a gunsmith local. Yea tell him to call us goodbye. I took it to a good gunsmith and he shimmed and adjusted it and got it running to an aceptable level. mentime Mike from Taurus calls ext. 259 I told him this whole deal he said oh so sorry and we need the gun back to fix it no outside repairs are covered. well my gunsmith called him and explained what he did and how could it have been sent out twice not functioning properly? Well the bill from my smith was $50.00 cheaper than the shipping both ways so my smith asked mike in good faith send this guy something a t-shirt a coupon something he went through a lot he shouldn't have. Mike said so sad too bad maybe we can make it up to him in the future! my smith felt really bad about it and knocked 20 bucks off the bill. He will go far with his work!

    As far as taurus I sold 3 of my 5 and got 2 more sigs! No Mike at Taurus there woun't be a future with me. The lesson learned don't go with less quality firearms! and the way I now look at it Taurus guns aren't that much more cheaper than good quality guns. hoped this saved someone some grief! p.s. sig and cz are great people to work with!

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    i will gladly buy the crappy taurus guns out there..... since they are pieces of junk, i expect to pay junk prices..... please post what you have, and the price you want for the garbage gun you wanna sell. i will contact you for pics and ffl shipping.

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    ha the 990 did'nt last 100 rounds! back to locking up again.My smith is gonna try to look at it again,
    god bless him. Hey Ted just cause there junk don't think people are just gonna give them away. Most people work hard for what they got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeleinen1 View Post
    Nice thread Shipwreck


    The choice is yours people:
    Pay 200-300 for a Taurus, chances are if it doesn't fail after your first firing eventually you will have problems over time

    Pay an extra $50-100 for a Smith, Glock, Ruger, etc have the gun for 10+ years no little to no problems (used gun in these bands is better then a Taurus)

    And if that doesnt convince you, look at the machinework of a Tauras. Not very impressive

    Your money folks your choice
    Exactly - Yet, the Taurus guys will attack ya at some forums for even thinking of posting anything negative about their guns.

    But damn - ya get what ya pay for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom1911sigfreak View Post
    Hey Ted just cause there junk don't think people are just gonna give them away.....
    i see, they want me to pay for their mistakes...... figures...

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    Last time I looked at my checkbook I paid my own way. but still Ted it's heartbreaking to pay good money for something and have it go so badly. I now have just about as much money tied up in this little 990 as my cz-75! A bit crazy when you really think about it. I drove 75 miles today, once to my smith he told me up front he wants an hour more checkout time on the gun. At that point I drove back to my dealer and left it with him to send back to Taurus again. Lets see if third times a charm.

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    my offer stands, those who regret purchasing these piece of crap guns can contact me and we can work out a reasonable price based on the substandard quality of the weapon, not the price you were screwed into paying.

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    Thanks I'll think about it. Maybe Taurus will send me a new 990 then I can list it as new.

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    Hey Ted one last thing. how is it if getting my guns at cost plus 5% $2.00 transfer and 5% to Obama is getting screwed. I've been friends with my dealer a long time when I want something he gives me his jerry's sporting good book the prices are in there plain as day. anything used is $25.00 more than he took it in for. As far as i see it I sold 3 of my Taurus's got what I had into them,and upgraded 3fold in better guns. I still have the 990 that maybe (no will be fixed) by taurus. and a 627 that is running good.(so far) The only extra I put out was $30.00 To a smith that tried the best he could with what he had. Can't make chicken soup out of chicken shit! Oh and just a last little laugh I stopped at my dealer after work for a cold one and he had one of them new rossi rifles (made by Taurus)just got it today, all crome looked real nice felt good he told me turn it over when I did a large piece of crome was hanging off it.Just who does the QC at the factory?

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    New guy from Arizona here. My experience with Taurus Quality?? Third generation Millinium PT745 .45acp 6+1 and PT709. Both bought new, shot and soon after sold at a financial loss.

    When mentioning the word in Arizona, often heard is:"Friends don't friends buy a Taurus firearm".

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    Wow Sorry to hear that. rgbiker. I Like that quote! I'm wondering if the crummy QC, repair work, and lack of care for there consumer is a scam to wear people to the point of selling there guns to bottom feeders that get paid by taurus to do so. Then taurus cleans them up and sends them back out again to new poor souls. Yea thats whats happening. I'm on to it now LOL. I guess it could happen?

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    I have a PT945 stainless that I bought in 2006. Worked great until recently. My only complaint is that it's fussy about ammo, especially doesn't like Fiocchi. Then... the mags started falling out every time I fired it. Then when I took it apart one of the screws that holds the grips stripped. Sent it back (at my expense - $65!!! - no one there told me they would send a pickup). Just got it back a week later. The magazine release was "damaged", no other explanation. Now fixed. Mags fit tighter, I'm taking it to the range this weekend to check it out.

    But I still really like the gun. I think it looks beautiful, it's exactly the right size for a .45. I agree these cheaper guns are chancy, I fooled around with Ruger semi-autos for a while before giving up in disgust. We'll see if it's a long term keeper.

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    I am sorry I started to read this one. I am even more sorry I read it all the way through.
    The place some people draw their points of reference from and what it takes to get some folks to become personal amazes me. Start a thread about Taurus quality or Sigmas triggers or Hi Points in general and it normally turns into this thread. I sometimes get sucked in. Not this time I will not post to this thread.

    RCG

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    Taurus quality is a contridition in terms.

    Just my experience,

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    I'm sorry you feel that way recoilguy, guns are a very personal thing. I hope Taurus can do me and others right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidder View Post
    . . . The thing I can't figure out is why some of these big wig media give them good reviews. Should they not be investigated for all the complaints they get?
    Disclaimer: I don't own any Taurus products, I never have, and I never will. Everything "Taurus" has been said in this thread.

    Now to the "big wig media" and "good reviews".
    In "MANY" kinds of "enthusiast magazines" (and now their websites/TV shows) you need to understand their priorities and how that affects their reviews. Gun mags/shows are no different.
    Advertising dollars are "king" in these venues. If you follow certain magazines/sites/shows long enough, you will come to understand what is going on with "their reviews".
    Ad dollars make their profits. Magazine subscriptions don't even come close to "paying the tariff". Same for TV production costs.

    During my enduro/motocross racing career of 28 years there was a "standing joke".
    In comparison shootouts of new models in the mags, they would tell you what problems with last years model was fixed by the factory designs in their new bike model.
    Uhh dudes, that is exactly one year late.

    If you want a good example of "this syndrome", you can check out the TV show "Gallery of Guns". Lots of good facts about featured guns.
    They show range videotape. But, ALL range reports from one of their featured "gun writers" will report that "it handled well, and shot good groups". Without fail.

    Two parts of "what is that all about". First, the enthusiast mag/TV operations are getting free samples for "reporters" to test. Second, they want that to continue.
    The mags/TV shows profits depend on that.

    That said, my opinion is that Davidson's (the wholesale dealer) has a REALLY good thing going with their Gallery of Guns website and its "Gun Genie".
    www.galleryofguns.com - Buy guns online, top brands, best price, best service, best warranty; all types of guns: revolvers, rifles, pistols and shotguns.

    An excellent innovation, and a great place to quickly compare guns, and get "local gunshop prices" on guns that interest you.
    My last purchase was a Buckmark. Through the "Gun Genie". My most favorite gunshop got the gun from them, and he likes dealing through them that way.
    Disclaimer: I have no connection to Davidson's and never have. But, Davidson's is out at my local airport. And my gun shop gets "4 hour service".

    Just my usual verbose opinions. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom1911sigfreak View Post
    Oh and just a last little laugh I stopped at my dealer after work for a cold one and he had one of them new rossi rifles (made by Taurus)just got it today, all crome looked real nice felt good he told me turn it over when I did a large piece of crome was hanging off it.Just who does the QC at the factory?
    taurus is the parent company of rossi, rossi makes all of rossis guns...... know of which you speak sir.

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    my offer still stands to by junk taurus' at junk gun prices and yet not a single person has contacted me...... looks like the owners of bad taurus' want to sell them for good gun prices to unsuspecting people..... is this the right thing to do? you know the gun is crap and yet you would screw over your fellow man? tsk tsk tsk

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    Be nice Ted Santa's on his way.

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