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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoodie View Post
    I'm trying to get a hold of some Winchester 225 silver tips, i hear those are ideal for SD!!! I called Taurus and they said to avoid the very heavy loads, not sure if i can use a P+ or not though!!!
    The "very hot loads" are synonymous with +P ammo. Sounds like the manufacturer doesn't want you to use those. I'd go with their suggestion.

    Anything bullet 180g or more going 800fps+ is going to be sufficient for self defense. You might have some barrier problems, but certainly no stopping problems.....so long as you can aim...

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    Never exceed the manufacturers recomendations in the manual. Taurus says to not exceed a 255 gr projectile @ 900 fps. That's an M.E. rating of 458 ftlbs.

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    Well like i said, iv been hearing a lot of good things about the Winchester 225 silver tips for accuracy and SD, so I'll probably get a few boxes of those!!! When in the car, I'll most likely have it loaded with 2 or 1 buck shots followed by all .45's. I need to establish a good aim with it though, iv barely used it D:

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    At 25 feet or less, I would not down play the .410 stopping power, however, I am speaking of .410 rifle slug loads, not shot loads. They are devastating a close range. The .410 rifle slug load is probably easier to find than .45 LC rounds and are certainly much easier on the pocket book!

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    Here's a point that seems to be missed....
    The .45 ACP was developed to emulate the ballistics and stopping power of the .45 Colt (proper name, "Long Colt" is just a nickname). Colt wanted to harness the excellent stopping power of the .45 Colt in a semi-automatic pistol for use with the military.
    So to answer your question, the .45 Colt is an excellent manstopper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake View Post
    At 25 feet or less, I would not down play the .410 stopping power, however, I am speaking of .410 rifle slug loads, not shot loads. They are devastating a close range. The .410 rifle slug load is probably easier to find than .45 LC rounds and are certainly much easier on the pocket book!
    Ballistics for a .410 Slug... Just fine...

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    Hoodie, congrats or your purchase. A lot has been covered that I don't need to repeat. georgia-arms.com has 45LC ammo in small quantities and in Canned Heat (bulk) They sell HP's: 200gr Gold Dots and 260gr. As with pretty much any ammo right now, availability sucks. But I have used their ammo and am way satisfied with it.

    As for what your Judge can and cannot do, visit theboxotruth.com

    They did a bang up job on the Judge, literally!

    My son's coworker just bought a Judge and also couldn't find HP ammo. As I was going to the Orlando Gun Show to look for reloading supplies recently I bought him 50 rounds of 260 HP's from Space Coast bullets. $32 w/tax. As for the 45LC being an SD round: I sure as hell wouldn't want to be thumped in the chest by a round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benzuncle View Post
    Hoodie, congrats or your purchase. A lot has been covered that I don't need to repeat. georgia-arms.com has 45LC ammo in small quantities and in Canned Heat (bulk) They sell HP's: 200gr Gold Dots and 260gr. As with pretty much any ammo right now, availability sucks. But I have used their ammo and am way satisfied with it.

    As for what your Judge can and cannot do, visit theboxotruth.com

    They did a bang up job on the Judge, literally!

    My son's coworker just bought a Judge and also couldn't find HP ammo. As I was going to the Orlando Gun Show to look for reloading supplies recently I bought him 50 rounds of 260 HP's from Space Coast bullets. $32 w/tax. As for the 45LC being an SD round: I sure as hell wouldn't want to be thumped in the chest by a round.
    Hey thanks for the info!!! I had found some .45 hollow point blazers lying around in a feed store close by... the man litteraly had to stick his whole arm inside the shelf to pull out the only box of .45 LC's that had been lying there forever!!! I honestly had to blow off the dust from the box, so im sure they aren't not in a hurry to order a bulk of them anytime soon!!! The gun felt solid and made some pretty ugly holes on the targets, I am willing to trust my life to a .45 Colt after what i saw!!! I later bought some silvertips at a gun show, which is what im using for sd loads and I'm very happy with my gun, i feel that a #4, a buckshot, and 3 .45's can be effective if I'm ever in danger whether in my car or Walking around the ranch. Alot of criticism surrounds the gun do to it's name (The Judge) and it's Super Star roll in Max Payne... but all that aside, its a great little gun!!!

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    if you are not going to use the 410 with the judge why did you purchase it when a 45ACP would have been just as good if not better. I have had my Judge for a year and 9 months and I have found it to be very good and I feel it would be good for SD. Having a shot gun in the house I found it to be unyielding but to take out the Judge gives a feel of confidence. Small yet menacing. The 410 using 000 buckshot is like having three 380s hitting a person or a "snake" able to pentrate up to around 5 inches in soft tissue ( the FBI Gel Test) I have fired those as well as #4 shot. Hit a bad guy in the face and they will go throught the eyes and into the brain. By by bad guy. I usualy have mine with two 410's and three 45's. By the way the new 3 1/2" cylinder judge can fire the 3 1/2" 410 and they hold 5 shot in the 000 buckshot. Also because of the popularity of the judge sales Federal has come out with a new shell, the Federal Premium 410, with 4, 000 buckshot just as powerful as the 3 shell.

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