I just picked up a 85 ULBH Black finish today myself. Seems like a pretty sturdy gun and is just 2 oz heavier than my 642. I needed an EDC that I could carry when I visit my grandkids in Missouri. I know the risk of some good ol boy SD type in KY or MO relieving me of my weapon because he doesn't know or care to know about reciprocity. if I lost one of my S&Ws, it would be a financial setback. Once the PD gets your gun you can pretty much kiss it good by. An out of stater going to a local judge for a court order to get a gun back isn't going to get one. I got the Taurus for a good enough price that the loss wouldn't kill me.