View Poll Results: Do you shoot with one or two eyes open???
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04-09-2009, 12:07 PM
Since I'm right handed I sight with my left eye with both eyes open,C.A.R.Techniqiue
05-15-2009, 10:26 AM
Most of the time I shoot one eye but I can shoot two eyes open. I just need more practice. This is one of those bad habit situations. We or most new pistol shooter will start off one eye closed. Once we get our bearings and are a bit more experienced we need to break the habit of closing that one eye.
05-22-2009, 07:44 PM
05-22-2009, 11:36 PM
I don't shoot with my eyes.
05-23-2009, 09:46 PM
Went to the range today. I'm not consistant. Sometimes one eye is closed and somtimes it isn't.
06-05-2009, 05:34 PM
one eye, i cant line the sights up and have no clue what im aiming at with 2 eyes, i need more practice
07-09-2009, 12:11 AM
Sounds silly, but try turning your head ever so slightly to one side or the other. Focal points from eye to eye can be different with age. I've found that when I was younger, I could look straight on and see the sites with both eyes open just fine. As I've aged, I have to turn my head just a little to the right and bing bang boom, clear as a bell. (no, I don't wear corrective lenses)
Originally Posted by jump15vc
When I shoot bullseye targets (.22) I have to really focus on doing this. When I'm shooting combat type shooting, it's easier to find the front site and fire.
Just something to try. Hope it helps.
07-09-2009, 12:58 PM
I have always shot with one eye. I have tried a couple of times to keep both eyes open and really have a tough time focusing. I have heard it is better with two eyes so I am trying to get better at using both. When I go to the range next time I will try both methods and see which one serves me better.
07-09-2009, 01:16 PM
Good suggestion- commonly used when 'blading', as in your body (or parts) is more bladed (angled) to the target.
Originally Posted by zhurdan
07-15-2009, 01:19 PM
I use both eyes unless I am looking through a scope. Handguns are from a close enough range that I guess I feel comfortable without closing one eye. I also close my left eye if I am using open sights on a rifle from a good distance. Unless of course we are talking about first person shooters, then you keep both eyes open and just put the "+" on the target.
08-07-2009, 12:40 AM
i usually use one eye...but hey that whole shoots at smells was pretty funny
08-09-2009, 11:19 PM
left eye closed but will eventually keep it open once I get better at it.
08-25-2009, 08:33 AM
I usually keep one eye closed for pistol & rifle - both open for shotgun.
09-04-2009, 08:57 PM
I shoot a handgun with both eyes open.
10-02-2009, 01:54 AM
Eyes Wide Open
Here is a neat way to practice using both eyes open to learn how to get on target quickly:
1. Determine which is your dominate eye. This is so you can check the accuracy of your "aim" after pointing.
2.Now point your finger[thumb down] at a spot [I say finger because you don't scare the heeby geebes out of someone at a restaurant ] like you'd be aiming your pistol with your gun hand.
3. Now close your non-dominate eye and see how close you are to the coffee spout or mark on the wall you "aimed" at.
4. You can do this hundreds of times a day and as you get better on aim you can speed up your getting on another target. This is my own method but it worked for me when I used to shoot.
10-07-2009, 10:27 AM
WOW I'm guessing the way you figure out your Dominant eye is by pointing at an object then closing both eyes one at a time and see which is ACTUALLY pointing at the object?????
Cause I tried what Sloopy said and every single thing I point at it always ends up being my left eye that is on the "target."
I'm right handed and usually close my left eye to shoot. So I should be relying on my left eye more than my right then??? According to this test? Could this be why I'm always shooting a little left on 10 yard targets with a pistol?
10-07-2009, 12:08 PM
Cross dominant shooting is a funny thing, I'm left eye dominant and right handed and I've noticed the following:
With pistols, I shoot more accurately using my left eye, but I've always been center when shooting with my right eye only, I just shoot tighter groups closing my left eye.
With pistols, I can get good two eyes open sight picture by indexing my chin on my right shoulder and score good quick hits and maintain more peripheral vision than shooting with one eye open and one eye closed. Some like to cant the gun to the left at around a 45 degree angle (plus or minus) and have good results, but I didn't like the way the gun handled during recoil in that position.
With rifles I've always shot right eyed only and managed to qualify mid to high expert multiple times while in the Marines, that's shooting with iron sights out to 500 yards and scoring hits on man size targets, shooting at 300 yards and 200 yards. It's not that big a deal being cross dominant with rifles if you're using iron sights. Some issues start up when you being using 1X optics, I can NOT get a good sight picture (proper sight alignment applied to the target) with an Aimpoint or EOTECH unless I close my left eye. Again canting the firearm will probably help, but I haven't really tried it with an optic equipped rifle. So with rifles I will shoot right eye only.
As a cross dominant shooter, if you are going to shoot trap or skeet using your strong hand, you're screwed. You need to shoot the shotgun with whatever hand matches to your eye. You can probably learn to do it with the other hand, but it's going to be a pain in the rear.
Back to pistols as this is the HANDGUN forum...
There are many different schools of thought on cross dominance, I've been looking into this for a couple years and reading what others have to say on this matter and I've seen the following arguments.
1: You should shoot with both eyes open for the improved peripheral vision.
That only works if you can actually see your sights with both eyes open, unless your point shooting you need to see your sights to make hits. Not to mention that in times of mass adrenaline, we have the tenancy to go into tunnel vision and that improved vision of having two eyes open may not matter at all.
2: You should shoot with whatever hand corresponds to your dominant eye.
I don't know about everyone else, but my left hand is damn near useless. But here are two more points, one for and one against the above statement.
A: Using your off hand that corresponds to your dominant eye will leave your strong hand available for negotiating obstacles and your mag changes may be faster.
B: If you've been shooting with your hand that doesn't match your dominant eye, it's going to take a lot of practice getting used to drawing, aiming, and firing with the same precision* that you get with your dominant hand.
3: You should cant the gun closer to your dominant eye.
As noted above, guns are meant to recoil on a vertical plane, that's usually means that the gun is going to go with the front sight and travel at an arc. Canting the gun to get better sight picture is aligning the gun to hit you in the face and take your sights further off target while firing.
So here's the real deal from what I've tried and what I've learned from other instructors.
Use whatever method works for you and improve that method.
If you find that you get better hits and better performance using your right eye only, stick with it. If your left eye is dominant but you close it, your right eye is now dominant by lack of options.
If you want to shoot with two eyes open, adjust your head laterally until you find the right sight picture and practice alot with it until that position is where you naturally end up after drawing and presenting the gun on target. It's taken me almost two years but the practice is finally paying off and I'm getting that "instinctual muscle memory" sometimes I lapse and find myself closing my right eye but for the most part I'm doing OK.
If canting the gun works for you, use it.
You don't have to shoot the same for every ocassion. If I'm shooting a rimfire bulls eye competition where I'm not over working my left hand, I'll shoot left handed as that's where I get my most accuracy. If I'm shooting close up defensive stlye I use both eyes open, if the target is a little further out and smaller, I will close my right eye for the most accuracy while using my dominant hand as it gives my best overall performance under prolonged use.
There is no right or wrong way to shoot if the results you get with a given method work for you.
* Accuracy vs. Precision: Accuracy is doing somehting correctly, precision is doing something accurately a number of times in a row and acheiving the same result at the end of an action. I can shoot more accurately left handed, but as time goes on, my left arm wears out faster than my right and my accuracy is effected as a result of "the shakes". While shooting right handed, I acheive an acceptable level of accuracy and due to the greater strength of my right side, I get more precision, that is to say I can acheive the desired result (a good hit) more often while shooting right handed.
Last edited by VAMarine; 11-02-2009 at 07:49 AM.
10-07-2009, 08:22 PM
I started shooting with one eye closed. I have read several articles relating to this matter and it is said that in times of stress, you will not be able to close one eye, due to the adrenalin rush and will have both eyes open This make sense.
Shooting with both eyes open, less fatigue to facial muscles and eye muscles, therefore, longer range time.
Therefore, it is recommended to train shooting with both eyes open. I have been shooting now for about six months with both eyes open and it does seem to get easier each time.
The only problem I have encountered is, when shooting with the weak hand, it is very hard to shoot with both eyes open, I cannot seem to get the sight right.
10-16-2009, 01:30 PM
I chose one eye. I'm a bit strange when it comes to handguns. I'm right eye dominant and left handed. So I turn my head slighty to the left when a shoot a handgun. Rifles, I shoot right handed anyway.
10-25-2009, 02:34 PM
Some ex military showed me how to shoot with two eyes open.
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