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    Made in Brazil?

    I just realized that my SA Loaded Stainless 1911 says made in Brazil! What does that mean? It still says S.I. Geneseo IL USA, Made In Brazil-IMBEL. What gives? The last time I checked, Springfield was not in Brazil. I paid good money for an American 1911, not a Brazilian one. Is this a bad thing? Is my 1911 a lesser version? What do you guys have?

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    I believe our XDs are made in Croatia. I myself am loving my 9mm. Springfield has picked up these models somewhere along the way and made them their own. How does the gun fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGCrazie View Post
    I just realized that my SA Loaded Stainless 1911 says made in Brazil! What does that mean? It still says S.I. Geneseo IL USA, Made In Brazil-IMBEL. What gives? The last time I checked, Springfield was not in Brazil. I paid good money for an American 1911, not a Brazilian one. Is this a bad thing? Is my 1911 a lesser version? What do you guys have?
    It means you got hosed....just like me. I love mine though.

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    It's a shooter, for sure. I love it, but I paid for a US made gun at US gun prices. I still haven't gotten an answer, other than I got hosed. I got her new grips to distract me from the Made In Brazil stamped on the slide. Too bad the grip didn't cover it.
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    They've been making them down there for a while. I have one from Brazil and one American made. both are great weapons.

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    Call Springfield. I might be wrong, but I think that only the frames are from Brazil... But it does say "MADE" in Brazil. Look at it this way, your money still went to New York.

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    If Memory serves it is the frames that are made down there.

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    The Springfield XD's were originally imported from Croatia as the HS 2000. Lack of effective marketing was the primary cause for poor sales. Springfield with a great reputation and needing to break into the "polymer" line made some sort of deal with the maker of the HS-2000, and after a few minor changes to make sure the HS-2000 lived up to Springfield's reputation the XD was born. The rest as they say is history.

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    Good camp fire story. I got a little teary there at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD Sub-Compact View Post
    Good camp fire story. I got a little teary there at the end.

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    Springfield pays Imbel in Brazil to make their 1911 slides, frames, barrels, etc.

    Then, the higher model Springfields are assembled in the USA by Springfield. The loaded, Milspec and GI models are completely assembled and finished in Brazil, however.

    There is nothing wrong with this.

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    The springfield 1911a1 pistol frames, slides, & barrels have been made in brazil since the late 1980's. The early frames were not marked with "brazil" but the later ones were. The quality has been top-notch for the past 25 years i have been hot-rodding 1911a1.

    Want to guess who makes frames & slides for "wilson combat"--------kimber
    want to guess who makes springs for "wilson combat"-------------------wolff
    want to guess who makes the majority nm aluminum speed triggers marketed under many famous names who build the 1911a1 pistol-----------greider precision

    relax & enjoy your pistol for a lifetime.

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    You could have bought a cheap taurus!! Another south american make

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGCrazie View Post
    It's a shooter, for sure. I love it, but I paid for a US made gun at US gun prices. I still haven't gotten an answer, other than I got hosed. I got her new grips to distract me from the Made In Brazil stamped on the slide. Too bad the grip didn't cover it.
    http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4743/dsc0273tvk.jpg
    http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1840/dsc0274c.jpg
    My SS Loaded Ultra Compact was also made there. I knew it before I bought it - so what? If it works, what does it matter as long as it wasn't made by Taurus? My SIG's and H&K's were made in Germany, my XD in Croatia, and my Citadel and Rock Island in the Philippines. As long as they run as they should, and they all do, I could care less where it was made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GURU1911 View Post
    The springfield 1911a1 pistol frames, slides, & barrels have been made in brazil since the late 1980's. The early frames were not marked with "brazil" but the later ones were. The quality has been top-notch for the past 25 years i have been hot-rodding 1911a1.

    Want to guess who makes frames & slides for "wilson combat"--------kimber
    want to guess who makes springs for "wilson combat"-------------------wolff
    want to guess who makes the majority nm aluminum speed triggers marketed under many famous names who build the 1911a1 pistol-----------greider precision

    relax & enjoy your pistol for a lifetime.
    I know that this is an old thread, but readers need clarification.

    All springfield frames and slides are forged in brazil. One piece barrels are made by storm lake. 2 piece are made in brazil by IMBEL.

    Springfield frames with serial numbers that start with "N" come from IMBEL (brazil) fully assembled. Frames that start with "NM" are machined, fit and finished from geneseo IL. Most will say that NM framed guns are a little nicer N framed, but there are nice and poor examples of each.

    Although I am not familar with Wilson 1911s from long ago, new(er) Wilson Combat 1911s have nothing to with kimber.
    Have a gander at this thread:
    Where are Wilson's made? (Pics) - 1911Forum

    I own a few 1911s, and Wilson Combat makes some of the nicest 1911s that money can buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck-boost View Post
    I know that this is an old thread, but readers need clarification.

    All springfield frames and slides are forged in brazil. One piece barrels are made by storm lake. 2 piece are made in brazil by IMBEL.
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    Springfield frames with serial numbers that start with "N" come from IMBEL (brazil) fully assembled. Frames that start with "NM" are machined, fit and finished from geneseo IL. Most will say that NM framed guns are a little nicer N framed, but there are nice and poor examples of each.

    Although I am not familar with Wilson 1911s from long ago, new(er) Wilson Combat 1911s have nothing to with kimber.
    Have a gander at this thread:
    Where are Wilson's made? (Pics) - 1911Forum

    I own a few 1911s, and Wilson Combat makes some of the nicest 1911s that money can buy.
    What's a two piece barrel?

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    Imbel products are fine and meet SA's quality control regulations. Some people do not like the fact that their SA is not American made, but I could care less. I have Imbel guns and have yet to have a single problem out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy charlie View Post
    What's a two piece barrel?


    Here is some reading for ya:
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