New to J Frames, Need Advice

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      New to J Frames, Need Advice

      Hey guys, so im looking into SW J Frame Revolvers. i really like the look of the 637 however, A lot of people from multiple place, here and the range etc. Said that i shoiuld look into the 642. My purpose is to have a loaded gun in the house and obviously home defense. I have a Sig P226 that i just got but i would like to have a nice little revolver in my collection also. Please shed some light on me between the two besides DA and SA. Is the 637 with the hammer open and sticking out of the frame a problem such as flint? i know very little about the J Frames. All i know if that 637 is DA/SA unlike the 642 which is only DA since the hammer is cover inside the fame. Sorry if i sound like a newby. Just want to get the right gun for the right purposes.

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      I prefer the 637. The only reason in my opinion to opt for the DAO 642 is if your looking for deep concealment under clothing. I've carried the 637 in a IWB holster and I have not had any issues drawing the pistol and having it snag up on anything. I also prefer the traditional look of the 637 and having the option to shoot in SA. If for home defense I'd opt for the 637 and no issue with lint in my experience. I've heard the 638 w/ the shrouded hammer has had some complaints w/ lint, but I don't know because I've never owned one.

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      I'm X2 on that comment.

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      There is no one right answer..... Weapon choice is really a personal one..... What I like might not be to your liking.... There are various factors to consider when choosing a weapon.....

      Best advise is if you can get the opportunity to handle and fire the different weapons you are interested in..... That is a huge plus....... Good luck..........

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      even with the flint issues?

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      Quote Originally Posted by AJAnello78 View Post
      even with the flint issues?
      What flint issues? You mean lint? No lint or flint issues w/ the 637, promise. If the guys from the multiple places and at your range are telling you the 637 has lint or flint issues tell them they know not what they speak. Other than what I stated above about the 642 the reasoning I suppose is that in a self defense situation it is better to opt for the DA pull in most all scenarios instead of cocking the hammer in a self defense situation, so in that line of thought why do you need a SA. But I enjoy shooting the SA as it can be very accurate especially for those longer shots. As cait 43said it's a personal choice, you asked for advice and I gave you mine concerning a firearm I own and really like. Be safe and good shooting.

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      Short-barrel, double-action revolvers are very difficult to shoot accurately, effectively, and well. They are not beginners' guns.
      Before buying a snubbie, you need to know how to shoot a pistol really well, and you need a lot of practice with trigger control.

      We have a S&W Airweight Bodyguard (shrouded-hammer J-frame). When carried in a proper belt holster, there are no lint problems. However, pocket carry, even in a holster, is quite another kettle of fish.

      My wife likes the S&W snubbie we own as a carry piece, but she can't shoot it comfortably because its recoil makes it twist in her hand. Therefore, practice with it is an "ain't gonna happen." Instead, she prefers to shoot her Kel-Tec P3AT. She's quite good with it, so that's what she carries.
      To be truthful, the 638 twists in my hand too. I can hit with it, but I'd rather shoot my pocket-size .45 semi-auto, or the medium-size .380 pistol I normally carry.

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      I own both of these snub nose pistols and I like the 637 better.

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      About the only benefit from a shrouded hammer revolver is you can shoot it from a pocket (like your jacket,not pants pocket) if need be and the gun will go off with no chance of the pocket or lining material wrapping in between the hammer and frame causing no boom.This is normally a carry where you don't have it in a pocket holster and are forced or stumble into a bad area.When the signs dictate it you just put your hands in your pockets and hold the gun just in case.If you do need to use it,the preferred way is push your hand,gun and jacket out forward some to get the cylinder gap in front of you,if you shoot your jacket is junk from the flames and spatter coming from the cylinder gap,but a jacket is the least of your worries if you had to do it.You could pull the trigger with the gun back at your body,but I wouldn't if I didn't have to.

      That is one drawback to revolvers,that damn cylinder gap.Shooting an auto at night isn't bad if the powder has some flash suppressant in it,it will actually illuminate your target better for you in real low light.With the revolver,that blast coming out of the gap can be freakin blinding,especially when you hit the 357mag.I used to hate night qualifying with the revolver because I was blind after a cylinder full.The 38 reloads weren't too bad,but the full house 357s were brutal on the eyes.If you've ever had your head hit hard enough to have a whiteout,bingo every shot.

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      I can't vote, I carry a stainless model 60. My wife on the other hand carries the 642.

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      thanks for the advice. im still unsure what to get between the two.

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      If you are buying it strictly for HD then go for the Model 60 in stainless. It is heavier and has a tad longer barrel. Both of these lead to a better gun for shooting and more accuracy.

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      if i get a model 60, could i put Square grips on them instead of the rounded grips?

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      If you mean as in the gripfame being square instead of round butt,yes but you'll have to look.You just can't go the other way.Last I knew years ago there were only a handful of them around but that may have changed.

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      I have four J frames, models 642, 442, 49, and 640, the finish on the 642 is God awful! Started coming off after about 3 months, not just wearing off, but flaking off, I swear they must have used nail polish. The 442 is holding up much better. S&W offered to re-finish it (642) but it would be the same crappy finish that is on it, so I'll probably do it myself with Dura Coat. Overall I prefer the model 640 .357 all stainless, finish certainly is not an issue, it will accept all .38 Specials including .357 Magnum which I don't recommend using it with. Because of it's extra weight it is quite manageable with .38+P and having been made to accept the .357 you can practice a lot with .38's without fear of wearing out the gun. The Model 49 Bodyguard with it's shrouded hammer or any other model of that design attracts a ton of lint and dirt and has to be cleaned more often as the crud gets in between the hammer and frame giving it a gritty feel as you squeeze the trigger. Enclosed hammers are much better, exposed hammers will also attract a lot of grit, as these revolvers are often carried in your pocket. Remember, these guns are not designed for target practice, so exposed hammers serve no real purpose when used for self defense as these weapons were originally designed. Round grips with a Tyler "T" adapter is a good way to go for maximum concealment and shoot ability, rather than a square butt. Again they're not target pistols. Hope this helps.

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      I've had a 642 for two and 1/2 years. I don't like "the look" compared to the exposed hammer guns.
      But, I bought it for when I need deep concealment functionality, not for its looks. I have CT Laser grips on it.
      It is not my primary CCW EDC. And, unlike a post above, my 642's finish is still "perfect". After a LOT of ammo.

      I find I need to practice quite often with the J-frame to be "reasonably proficient". Just as the same practice
      is needed for my SIG P290 semi-auto. What they have in common is they both weigh 15 oz. unloaded.

      Many other guns I have such as 9mm Beretta 92 or .45 Long Colt single actions I can shoot pretty well
      after a "layoff". The only thing they have in common is "larger size and more weight" than the CCW guns.
      Just another example of not being able to violate the laws of physics.

      P.S.
      My Ruger Alaskan 2 1/2" barrel "super snubby" in .454 Casull with full power loads at night has some
      REALLY impressive barrel and cylinder gap flashes. Kinda like being hit with a strobe. And, you REALLY
      need to make sure where your off-hand is placed. So far, I haven't made a "cylinder gap mistake".

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