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    +p+

    i was curious if anyone has any experience with factory +p+ loads. i know its kinda use at your own risk, but i saw some win ranger +p+ and the numbers and ballistics were impressive. high point guns say ok but that bunch may say anything t sell you something no reputation=nothing to lose, im not planning on shooting hot loads regularly just a box to make sure gun is ok with it and use it as ccw/home defense ammo, but not going to do that without firing some first and i was wondering if the slide might kaboom in my hand....... this reminds me when i was a little younger i had this lorcin .380 i shot it a little, decided to sell it, cleaned it up real good before guy was coming to shoot it and maybe buy it. when he came i had just got it back together he loads a shell walks out back and fired , the slide comes off the gun when it discharged and the fireing pin hit him right between the eyes scared the shit out of me , thought he was dead, i had forgot to put a pin or something back in, he was ok and bought the gun

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    What gun are you wanting to fire this in? You mention Hi Point and Lorcin, but this is posted in the Smith&Wesson sub-forum?

    I WOULD NOT shoot +P+ in a Hi Point, Lorcin, Jennings, Raven...etc.

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    sorry awake late.... sigma 9 ve

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    This is what your SAFETY & INSTRUCTION MANUAL has to say.

    pg. 13
    “Plus-P-Plus (+P+) ammunition must not be used in Smith &
    Wesson firearms
    . This marking on the ammunition designates
    that it exceeds established industry standards, but the designation
    does not represent defined pressure limits and therefore
    such ammunition may vary significantly as to the pressures generated.
    If you have not done so, please read your manual.

    Use the ammo at your own risk. Generally a few rounds of +P+ won't hurt anything, but it's your gun and your hands holding it. A steady diet of +P or +P+ can cause premature wear may even possibly damage the gun.

    Personally, I'd just stick with regular 9mm or 9mm+P ammo.

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    plus p plus

    i knew i would get this response.....i know what the manual says.....i want to know has anyone shot a +p+ through their sigma and if so how many and any ill effects. thats all. and the reason i ask is that why would winchester make ammo that causes 99% of guns to explode

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    sorry if i come off as rude , but you quoted the manual on me

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    Quote Originally Posted by saratj1 View Post
    i knew i would get this response.....i know what the manual says.....i want to know has anyone shot a +p+ through their sigma and if so how many and any ill effects. thats all. and the reason i ask is that why would winchester make ammo that causes 99% of guns to explode
    Then why didn't you include that in your original post?

    S&W and other manufacturers place that info in the manual for liability reasons in case you do have a gun blowup in your hand you can't blame S&W.

    So like I said,

    Use the ammo at your own risk. Generally a few rounds of +P+ won't hurt anything, but it's your gun and your hands holding it. A steady diet of +P or +P+ can cause premature wear may even possibly damage the gun.

    Personally, I'd just stick with regular 9mm or 9mm+P ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saratj1 View Post
    sorry if i come off as rude , but you quoted the manual on me
    Good luck getting helpful info out of this crowd with that attitude, no further comment.
    Last edited by VAMarine; 12-21-2009 at 04:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAMarine View Post
    Then why didn't you include that in your original post?

    S&W and other manufacturers place that info in the manual for liability reasons in case you do have a gun blowup in your hand you can't blame S&W.

    So like I said,

    Use the ammo at your own risk. Generally a few rounds of +P+ won't hurt anything, but it's your gun and your hands holding it. A steady diet of +P or +P+ can cause premature wear may even possibly damage the gun.

    Personally, I'd just stick with regular 9mm or 9mm+P ammo.
    you answered my problem with your post but still say nothing constructive. do you do everything the manual says with all your firearms, i doubt it as manuals are very redundant and conservative for legal issues. but unless you know about +p+ you cant really help. i dont know what to say. but i will say this how about if you see my name on a post just dont even read it and save yourself the trouble of searching manuals for the answer

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