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  1. #176
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    Disappointed

    So, I was offered a reasonable deal a SW9VE on a whim from a friend that was moving overseas. Then I heard of a few internet horror stories, but further research seemed to indicate that early bugs were worked out. So I bought it with the idea of teaching my wife to shoot and making it her home defense weapon.

    Damn. It fails to feed at least once on every magazine (two different factory 10 round magazines, a variety of factory ammo). She loved shooting but can't deal with a jam. Meanwhile I've loaned her my Sig 239, but I want it back.

    I thought about unloading this POS to someone else (not nice, I know) but decided to diagnose the issue instead. Tonight I read through most of this thread and felt that there were too many people happy with this gun for it to be un-salvageable.

    So, after messing about for a while I found the root cause. The striker doesn't always retract, when it doesn't it interferes with the rim of the case that's being chambered. It seems that the striker doesn't have a positive return spring.

    Is my gun broken or is this something in the design?

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    I would say that yes the spring is either weak or broken.
    I am not sure as to how to open the slide up to look. Some will chime in I am sure.
    Yu could all ways contact S&W as well to see if it could be a warranty thing,
    Did you buddy mess with it at all in regards to changing the spring out.
    Or it could just be really dirty an hanging up that way.
    You might try using a good canned cleaner that you can spray with force in an around the strike pin.
    Make sure the cleaner is plastic safe.
    I know there is a hole on the bottom of the slide as well were it lead right to the striker.
    you could try a little oil an work it back an forth.
    later
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  4. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by davec921 View Post
    I would say that yes the spring is either weak or broken.
    I am not sure as to how to open the slide up to look. Some will chime in I am sure.
    Yu could all ways contact S&W as well to see if it could be a warranty thing,
    Did you buddy mess with it at all in regards to changing the spring out.
    Or it could just be really dirty an hanging up that way.
    You might try using a good canned cleaner that you can spray with force in an around the strike pin.
    Make sure the cleaner is plastic safe.
    I know there is a hole on the bottom of the slide as well were it lead right to the striker.
    you could try a little oil an work it back an forth.
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    Thanks Dave. The gun is box stock. It was dirty, I don't think the previous owner ever cleaned it but he claims only 3-400 rounds were ever fired. I'll try to clean the striker/spring area.

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    If he only fired 300 to 400 rnds then the gun is not even really broke in.
    I have just over 2000 through mine.
    I noticed a diff at about 1000 on the trigger pull. it started to become more smooth.
    Did you get the original instruction manual.
    That will show were to oil the slide.
    I generally put the oil on a patch that is fold in half then half again. so you have a small square.
    I put the oil right on the corner.
    I then use the path to apply the oil. That way you get a good film on the parts but not to much that in runs every were.
    I normally coat the hole outside of the barrel.
    Then in the slid I coat were the barrel goes through it.
    All coat right at the oppen of the ejection port.
    If when you turn the slide upside down you will see a small chunk of steel pressed in the top side right at the ejection port.
    That is a were point so as to reduce friction when is cycles.
    Oil that.
    All so I run the path with oil in the grooves of the slide where it rides the frame.
    I then run the patch on the metal parts of the frame that come in contact with the slide.
    like I said the patch leaves just a film. enough for the intended purpose of friction reduction.
    All so if you look just in front of the trigger you will see a hunk of metal in the frame. Hit that with oil as well.
    When the gun cycles the barel slide back an down an hits that piece.
    All so in the back of the slide you will see the sear. a slight dab on those metal parts as well.
    Wish I had a camera I would take pics.
    hope this helps you.
    later
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  6. #180
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    My Sigma

    I like my Sigma a lot. I consider it one of the best gun buys that I have ever made. Here is a review that I wrote up: A Handgun Review: The Smith & Wesson SW9VE

    I haven't made any modifications to my gun. I feel that lightening the trigger might expose me to civil liability if I ever need to defend my home using this Sigma. I find the gun very pointable and don't mind the heavy trigger. I like the gun's simplicity and not having to worry about all kinds of safeties and buttons and switches in a stressful situation. It's like a double action revolver with about 16 rounds in the magazine!

    I have bought a couple of holsters for this gun. Mostly the nylon variety, but I do have one brand-name kydex holster for this gun. I don't carry, but have this gun primarily for home defense. I'm sure it will do the job if needed.

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    There could be some dirt or other debris in there with the striker. It was me I'd order a new striker spring mainly because they are so dang cheap and take the striker out and clean it really good. There's a plastic door that can be opened just like a Glock. A small prying tool to get it started and then use a finger to remove it. Be sure to hold a hand or something over thew back because that spring and striker will come out in a hurry once freed.

    No it's not in the design to have the striker to not go all the way back in. Wolff springs are pretty reasonable nad can take a little off the trigger pull.

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    my new ccw enjoying so far nice gun for the the money not to bad looking either

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    Perfect for home defense

    Thankfully I haven't had to use it for defense but I still love it.

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    i don't personally own one but have 2 buddies that have them one stainless and one black. good looking gun IMO but the trigger is just too much for me to deal with. i would definitely buy one if not for the long heavy DAO trigger.

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    I am not a huge fan of SW semiautos but a friend of mine has a Sigma. The only thing that is not liked about all who have shot it is the long heavy trigger.

    Other than that and the looks of the gun, it runs like clock work.

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    I bought the SW40VE a couple weeks ago, and finally got to shoot it last Saturday. We were pressed for time, so I only put 50 rounds through it before we had to leave, but it performed flawlessly. There is no denying it has a pretty heavy trigger, but I don't think it's as bad as some people describe it. So far, I love it, and can't wait til' next time at the range- but with one son playing football, and another playing fall baseball, my weekends are gonne be kinda tight for a while.

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    I have had the 40VE the"LOVE" gun as i call it for all most 3 yrs now. I shoot it a lot and never had a failure. good trainer and range gun. You get in a fire fight with it and your a dead man. It has a two mile long 10lb trigger pull and if you don't take your time and watch ever pull you won't hit the side of a barn from 15. best junk hand gun i have. Everyone need one of these guns. I shoot it before any of my other guns. It makes me stop and think about what i am doing because if you don't you won't hit and if you do, your ready of a real gun. It goes with me fishing because if i drop it i haven't lost much. It does my dirty work where i would not take my good stuff. At one time i was going to sell it but got to thinking I'm never going to get anything for it. you can get them for $300 plus a $50 rebate and then it hit me, this gun does many jobs and very well. It shoots good if you can hold still long enough for the for the trigger to go off and it makes me shoot all my other pistols like i was born with them. I love this junk gun. It is my range/trainer and kayak fishing buddy. For a carry s/d home protection gun? you can chunk it them and have better luck hitting them. I spend more trigger time with this gun than any of my others. best mistake I every made.

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    I absolutely love my Sigma .40 cal. It's simply the best bang for the buck. We all know its a Glock for half the price. Yeah the trigger can be tricky but anyone can adapt. I own a H&K .45 USP Compact as well. I decided carrying a $900 may not be such a great idea everyday. I started looking for carrying options. Of course I wanted something smaller. Had my heart set on the Walther PPS .40 so I did all my research.

    Well I realized I'm back to carrying an expensive gun so why spend the money and just carry the H&K. So then I thought LCP Ruger 380 James Bond gun that my Dad loves but he wouldn't give it up. I hit my local gun show and shopped around. I kept coming back to the Sigma. I pulled the trigger and purchased it for $299 and with the mail in rebate $249. Then added my accessories.

    Here is my Sigma costs with accessories.
    $249 Sigma .40
    $10 Hogue Grip
    $10 Rail Adapter
    $75 Streamlight Tactical Flashlight
    $344 Total Investment






    $10 Hogue Grip

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    I need help too!!

    Quote Originally Posted by bfschoff31 View Post
    Can someone please take the slide off thier Sigma and take a picture from the top of the firearm, concentrating on the slide release? I took it to the range again last night, and it's still jamming. If i could get a comparison picture, I'm pretty sure i know what's wrong. I cant seem to find a picture like this on the web. Thanks! Brad!
    Brad I've been 3 days trying to find the answer to this also.I hope you have found the answer to this.I took mine down to put an extended slide release in it.I had just put 2 in my glocks with no problem.I did not think about it when I took the sigma down that it had a spring in it.Needless to say the barrel stop spring flew out and I can't figure out how to put it back.If you found out how to,I would sure like to know how. I would appreciate it very much if you can help me with this. Thanks,qparts1

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    Thumbs up

    me and my uncle went to the range a couple months back with his sigma 9mm i loved it, it felt good and grouping was nice i didnt mind the trigger pull at all. if ididnt have other plans for a sr9c i mwould get a sigma but thats just me

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    Surprised so many are happy

    Really surprised so many people speak highly of this gun. I guess it must relate to the price and what you get. I shot one yesterday at the range and think there is absolutely no comparision to my XDs or other gus I have shot. the trigger is heavy and the gun feels very loose. I would never buy one.

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    I own a SW40VE. When I first purchased the pistol, FTF and ejection issues were common. I contacted S&W customer service and they quickly sent me Fedex shipping label and the pistol went to the factory for about 3 weeks. They replaced the extractor, spring and sear and cleaned up the trigger. The pistol feeds flawlessly and is not fussy about ammo type. The .40 S&W caliber is a good combo for stopping and rounds per mag. The drawback to .40 S&W is that there is a bit of recoil and this causes barrel rise when the pistol is shot rapidly meaning it requires concentration and practice to keep the sights on target in a combat situation. I also have carry .380 pistols and it is easier to shoot a very tight pattern with these pistols but of course, they don't pack the punch of a .40 cal round. Smith and Wesson customer service makes owning a Sigma a good value. I have thousands of rounds through the pistol now. Last, the SW40VE carries very well on your side in an ITB holster and fits the hand well... Like the pistol it was copied from, it doesn't have a safety hence the heavier trigger pull (so you don't discharge the pistol drawing it if the trigger is ticked a bit on the pull from holster). Any experienced shooted who shoots a wide range of semi-automatics can adapt to the heavier trigger pull.

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    my dad owns one and he loves it, I like it really well also. I would probably get one if he didnt have one lol I just dont want the same thing as him so Im probably gonna get a Ruger p95

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    I Heart Sigma

    I picked up my Sigma 40VE a few weeks ago. I've only had one trip to the range with it so far, but I was very happy with my first experience. After reading so many postings on it I do look forward to the trigger pull easing up with time but, even if it stays as-is, it's still not too bad. It was hard for my wife and I to find a gun that fit well in both our hands but the Sigma has a really nice comfortable feel. (and really cool to look at) My only complaint is that she's shooting slightly better with it than I am....

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    It only takes a few dollars and 10 minutes of your time to make the trigger pull pretty nice. Just get a Wolff 3.5# striker spring and you're good to go. The pull is still rather long, but for $275, you can't find a more reliable gun

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    My Sigma 40VE

    I purchased my Sigma 40VE back in Aug. 2010 and shot it a few times (with the IS) at my LGR and didn't to bad, but with the long heavy trigger pull and my failing eye sight I knew I needed to get some help if I was going to make this my SD pistol. I searched the internet for a laser and found that the CT laser guards were just the ticket. Again I searched the internet for the best price on the laser grips, once I found the right price I placed the order and had them within a week. After these were installed, it was back to the LGR to see how the new laser guards worked. After trying to tweak them in, I opted to save some ammo and purchased a Sight Mark bore sighter which made the task at hand much simpler. Now my Sigma 40VE is DEAD ON! The only thing I need to do now is lighten up the trigger pull. Any Ideas from other Sigma owners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riderrick65 View Post
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