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    Thanks! You better believe I will as soon as all this snow melts!
    I can't wait to shoot it,I hope it shoots as well as my 9VE...I am positive that it will though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRI View Post
    Thanks! You better believe I will as soon as all this snow melts!
    I can't wait to shoot it,I hope it shoots as well as my 9VE...I am positive that it will though.
    Be prepared for a bit more recoil and muzzle flip than your 9mm. You may also experience hand fatigue earlier in your range session. You may want to plan on 150 rounds or fewer.

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    There's a local shop selling this gun for $360 before the rebate. I live in central Virginia and don't have the time to travel to Richmond or elsewhere to shop around. Is $310 too much to pay for one of these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nozoki View Post
    There's a local shop selling this gun for $360 before the rebate. I live in central Virginia and don't have the time to travel to Richmond or elsewhere to shop around. Is $310 too much to pay for one of these?
    I think that's high. Try to negotiate down. Offer $325. If you have a local FFL that's willing to do a transfer from the internet for you, you can find thes on Gunbroker.com for $298 before rebate. The only extra you will pay is the $25 for shipping and $10 max for a check certification or credit card price (may only be optional).
    you'd be looking at a price of $283 after rebate. A savings of $27 for arranging some logistics and waiting an extra week. That's two boxes of ammo. Your choice. Be aware that this gun will have little trade in value in the future so plan on keeping it. I still think it's a steal at $310 and 4 mags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsig1 View Post
    I think that's high. Try to negotiate down. Offer $325. If you have a local FFL that's willing to do a transfer from the internet for you, you can find thes on Gunbroker.com for $298 before rebate. The only extra you will pay is the $25 for shipping and $10 max for a check certification or credit card price (may only be optional).
    you'd be looking at a price of $283 after rebate. A savings of $27 for arranging some logistics and waiting an extra week. That's two boxes of ammo. Your choice. Be aware that this gun will have little trade in value in the future so plan on keeping it. I still think it's a steal at $310 and 4 mags.

    Thanks. Both shops around here charge $50 to do a transfer, so that wouldn't save me any money. And going to a gun show would cost me about that much in gas and tickets. And I probably would keep it forever, or until my daughter is old enough to inherit it. My budget is pretty tight so I'm looking to get a decent gun for a decent price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nozoki View Post
    Thanks. Both shops around here charge $50 to do a transfer, so that wouldn't save me any money. And going to a gun show would cost me about that much in gas and tickets. And I probably would keep it forever, or until my daughter is old enough to inherit it. My budget is pretty tight so I'm looking to get a decent gun for a decent price.
    With all of that being considered, it is a pretty good deal. The other option in this price range is a Bersa 380 which I own and my wife loves. It is her carry gun.

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    I paid $350 for mine, slightly less than sticker. It was a bit hard to find in San Diego though. I could have gotten it cheaper (technically) on line, but like Nozoki said, transfer fees add up. Besides, if I buy local, I know I'm supporting my local shop. Give them first shot before you transfer. Speaking of transfers, when I went into the shop to pay for mine, there was a woman yelling at the owner because they were charging her transfer fees. According to her logic, they weren't "doing anything" but recieving the gun. And she's absolutely right. They don't do anything on a transfer...


    unless you count all the transfer paperwork, background check, HSC, registration, and all the hoops CA requires them to do. The moral of the story; be nice to the people transferring your gun. The only thing they get out of it is the few bucks for paperwork. Somebody else gets the money for the gun.

    Side note, everytime someone complains about the trigger on my Sigma, I like to remind them that the average DAO pull is around 10 to 12lbs. My Sigma breaks at 9.75 out of the box.

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    Well, I picked one up yesterday. Haven't had time to shoot it yet, but hopefully soon I can get outside and put a few rounds through her.

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    Hi, I just purchased a SW40VE yesterday. Took it to the range today and shot 100 rounds, a guy I work with is a member of a local shooting club and today was his day to be Rangemaster. This is my first handgun and was quite please with the first time results. Not having anything to compare to the trigger issue I cannot comment on because I have nothing to compare to but with all the comments about it being stiff it couldn't hurt if it was a bit softer.

    It's probably just me but it did seem like it was shooting a bit low and to the right @ 10yds. I could compensate a bit by aiming a little high left and hit black, but I think some of it is just me. If I do need to adjust the sights what is the best way?

    I purchased the Sigma for the price point to use for home protection but I had a pretty fun time at the range, this might be somthing that turns in more than closet item.

    Steve

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    I'm not sure about how to adjust the sights, but put in some more range time to make sure it's you, or shoot from a rest. Then you would know for sure. Have fun with it! The price on these guns is hard to ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzthepug View Post
    It's probably just me but it did seem like it was shooting a bit low and to the right @ 10yds. I could compensate a bit by aiming a little high left and hit black, but I think some of it is just me. If I do need to adjust the sights what is the best way?

    I purchased the Sigma for the price point to use for home protection but I had a pretty fun time at the range, this might be somthing that turns in more than closet item.
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    Keep on working with it. I shot low and a bit left at the beginning as well. It is definitely a result of the trigger but no big deal. Keep practicing with it. The long, hard pull will not so much pull you off target as it makes you anticipate the shot so you wind up pushing down in anticipation of recoil causing a low shot. Concentrate on holding steady all the way through trigger break. I also place my sight picture at dead center instead of 6 O'Clock. Dry fire the heck out of it with a snap cap. You will soon be dead on with it. You're right, this is not a closet gun. It loves to be shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsig1 View Post
    Keep on working with it. I shot low and a bit left at the beginning as well. It is definitely a result of the trigger but no big deal. Keep practicing with it. The long, hard pull will not so much pull you off target as it makes you anticipate the shot so you wind up pushing down in anticipation of recoil causing a low shot. Concentrate on holding steady all the way through trigger break. I also place my sight picture at dead center instead of 6 O'Clock. Dry fire the heck out of it with a snap cap. You will soon be dead on with it. You're right, this is not a closet gun. It loves to be shot.

    I fired another hundred rounds today. I seemed to be hitting low and left today. I do believe that it's me and getting used to the trigger. Sometimes when I was aiming high to compensate I would have one hit right where I was aimed. I guess I had just relaxed enough to squeeze off a smooth shot. I ordered on snap caps and will keep working the trigger.

    Thanks for the suggestions

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    I was sitting on the thinking chair earlier today when I was struk by the most amusing thing.

    The Sigma was originally a Glock clone. In fact, it was so close to being a Glock, Smith & Wesson was sued for infringement.

    A large number of people complain about what a POS the Sigma is.

    A majority of the people who gripe about the Sigma follow up their complaints with "Save up the $ and get a Glock."

    Am I the only one who sees the humor in this? If the piece of crap Sigma is that much like the beloved Glock...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patient_Zero View Post
    I was sitting on the thinking chair earlier today when I was struk by the most amusing thing.

    The Sigma was originally a Glock clone. In fact, it was so close to being a Glock, Smith & Wesson was sued for infringement.

    A large number of people complain about what a POS the Sigma is.

    A majority of the people who gripe about the Sigma follow up their complaints with "Save up the $ and get a Glock."

    Am I the only one who sees the humor in this? If the piece of crap Sigma is that much like the beloved Glock...
    No irony lost on me. However, the Glock lovers are able to point to their buttery triggers and snicker a bit until you tell them you got a trigger job done on your Sigma and still have $150 left over to buy ammo.

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    I sold mine i couldn't stand the trigger.

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    Just picked my Sigma 9mm (SW9VE) up...Caught it on sale for $279 (after rebate w/ 2 more extra free mags, 4 total) out here in Los Angeles. Very happy with it, the size is nice and it feels good with the rubber grip sleeve on there, and to me it looks and feels better than a glock (9mm). The trigger dont really bug me at all it'll wear down after i take it to the range a few times, how many rounds does it take to break this bad boy in? about a 1000 or so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxYJ85xX View Post
    J how many rounds does it take to break this bad boy in? about a 1000 or so?
    I would say there is essentially no break in period for these guns. Mine was fine out of the box. I've poured every type of cheap ammo through it with various SD hollow points mixed in and it has never failed. Dry fire it so you are used to the pull. The grip wrap will help as well. If you limp wrist it, it will stovepipe on you a bit. I've had that happen when single handing it without a locked wrist. Other than that, it will just plain do work.

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    Well, I finally got to fire it. Bought my S&W 9mm Sigma last weekend and took it to a friend's place today to fire a few rounds out in the boonies.

    First, the trigger. I didn't notice the trigger pull at all. Maybe I'm too uneducated in the way of the gun to notice things like that yet. My only other gun is a S&W 22, so I don't have another to compare it to. However, for me it fired just like I expected any gun to. And I can tell you right now, if I was using it in self defense I would NEVER be able to complain about the trigger being too stiff or rough. If I was trying to hit a dime from 10 yards, I might care. I didn't buy it for target practice. But it did hit inside a 12" x 12" area at 15-20 feet everytime I aimed at it, so that passes in my book.

    Next, I can tell you that I put 4 magazines of ammo through it (64 rounds of WWB) without a single issue. Hopefully that will continue to be the case for all future trips to the range, and especially true if needed in an emergency. But it worked fine today.

    My buddy is now considering the same pistol as his first. He has been reading up on all the hate towards this gun and now that he's had the chance to see it and fire it, he likes it. Especially for the price.

    Then again, maybe it will fall apart next time I shoot with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nozoki View Post
    Well, I finally got to fire it. Bought my S&W 9mm Sigma last weekend and took it to a friend's place today to fire a few rounds out in the boonies.

    My buddy is now considering the same pistol as his first. He has been reading up on all the hate towards this gun and now that he's had the chance to see it and fire it, he likes it. Especially for the price.

    Then again, maybe it will fall apart next time I shoot with it.
    Trust me, it won't fall apart next time and you'll like it even better.

    I had one of those range moments yesterday with my Sigma. I was at my outdoor range and just took down my targets as someone else was coming up to shoot. He was a Glock guy and didn't say a word about my Sigma laying on the table. I noticed I had two shells left in the box and the guy asked if I wanted to go hang another target to shoot them. I said no, I'll just shoot them off at what's there. Well, there was a clothespin still on the wire to hang targets and I took aim and hit it at 25 yards with the first shot. (Since I generally group at 5" -6" at 25 yards this was a definite 1 in a million shot but at the right time.) After that I just shot the second one off. At that point, I wound up staying for another 15 minutes talking about my Sigma.

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    OK...add me to the Sigma owners group!

    Just got a 9ve, all black. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet....still looking for a range that's not too far from my house. Plus I am working lots of overtime lately....hopefully, if the OT continues, I may just get the 40GVE before the rebate runs out.

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    I used mine to pass the NRA First Steps class a few days ago. Grouped my shots nicely at 10 yards. I think I'm really going to like this gun.

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    I have the same gun, Sigma GVE. Had the same thought, get the black but fell in love wih the green. No shots out it yet but I'll will get to the range asap to put down my smackdown to see if it will hold up. I love the feel of it in my hand... I'm new here, I cant find the upload image tag...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40calmania77 View Post
    I have the same gun, Sigma GVE. Had the same thought, get the black but fell in love wih the green. No shots out it yet but I'll will get to the range asap to put down my smackdown to see if it will hold up. I love the feel of it in my hand... I'm new here, I cant find the upload image tag...
    The image upload tag is the only colored button choice above the text box when you type your reply. The forum is a bit picky on file size.

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    Range report

    This is my first handgun ever, been shooting a 10/22 mostly. last time i held a handgun was with my pastor and it was about 4 years ago. So i began at the beginner's range = 7 yards. Just want to make sure the pistol is ok, and basically working on my grip, stance, handgun safety, etc, etc.

    I shot WWB from wally world, $18.00 per 100 rds, got 3 boxes. I shot 11 mags - 165 rds - all fed through with no problem. factory sights are pretty much dialed in, missed/ stray shots are of shooter's error. So here's the results:




    There are about 6 shots that's out of the silhouette, that makes it about 3.6% of missed shots.
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    * low/ stray shots were because of jerking the trigger in anticipating recoil i guess.
    * The heart area (10 shots) was from 1 handed shooting, purely accidental as i was aiming for the center X
    * The trigger wasn't that bad - i dry fired it for 2 days ! and during that time, i practiced the grip and aim.
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    the grip tape on the left hand side above the trigger is a guide for my left thumb so i know where it should come in contact with the gun.

    Wife called during session asking how's the gun (we bought it for HD training) and i told her it was great, shoots where i aimed at and she was very pleased with it. I told her for $200 bux new(after rebate), it was worth every penny.

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    Nice shooting, you got him. Good to see another happy Sigma owner.

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