How is the recoil on the 637 compaired to the 36? Thanks.
If you have a problem with recoil in your Airweight, switch to the heaviest bullet, at the slowest velocity, that you can find.
Slow, heavy bullets are easier to control than light, fast ones; and you deliver close to the same amount of energy to the target in either case.
It seems counter-intuitive, but it really does work.
Au contraire, mon ami!
Use the LIGHTEST bullet weight for lightweight guns. Recoil is a function of bullet weight/gun weight ratio. For best recoil control in a lightweight .38 Special, use the Federal Personal Defense 110 gr. JHP. And, get rid of those rubber grips! I set my Smith & Wesson Model 442 up with Eagle Secret Service grips. Don't really like J-Framed guns, but will stick this one in my pocket at times:
Here its the gun on the right, next to my Model 36.
I have a 642 airlite...it does have a pretty decent kick...it feels short and sharp, but not unreasonable...Put those same 38 specials in my GP100 and the gun pretty much doesn't even move...ofcourse the GP100 is a much bigger, heavier gun....I would not want to shoot .357 magnums out of a gun the size and weight of my 642...that has to hurt...
I hot .380 load, like the Cor-Bon 95gr, has the same energy as a .38 Special. Out of a Kel-Tec P-3AT, you get 8-9 squeezes, instead of 5.
They are both "unpleasant" to shoot. Neither are range guns. They are designed for close-in, life and death.
The Kel-Tec is 3/4" thick, and under $300... and fits your back pocket like a wallet.
If you're a romantic, buy the wheel-gun.
My 2 cents...
I think that you left something out.
Recoil is more than merely a function of the ratio of bullet weight to gun weight. It also is a function of bullet velocity.
Recoil is tied to the entire force involved in moving the bullet, not to just the projectile's mass. Think about it: Fire a 165-grain bullet from a normal-velocity .30-'06 cartridge, and then fire the same bullet from a high-velocity 30-caliber Magnum something. Which recoils more, assuming the same gun weight?
Further, "felt recoil," which is somewhat independent of physics calculations, is greater in weapons presenting a "sharper" (quicker?) recoil impulse.
In my own experience, and in my experience in coaching others, I have found that firing slow, heavy pistol bullets presents less "felt recoil" to the shooter, especially those using lightweight pistols.
(The same is not true in large-bore rifles, for many reasons unrelated to pistol shooting.)
personally i think it kicks pretty hard. I'm actually trying to sell or trade mine for something else. Otherwise I think its a fine gun, thats realible and shoots accurately.
I have a 642 and love it. The recoil does not bother me. I shoot it once a week...50 to 100 shots. It is my CCW and I love it...and love shooting it. I practice with +p. My wife on the other hand, will not touch it. Says it shakes the concrete. Love mine...though I cannot imagine shooting it in 357. Good luck.
I would be much happier with the heavier snubby. I have a Taurus 605 which is around 24 ounces and am able to fire reasonable quantities of .38 +P and hotter without recoil related problems.
Good luck with whatever you get.
I recommend the Federal Low Recoil Self Defense rounds for a lightweight snub. I have an Airlite T and those produce the best results for me. They have considerably less felt recoil than standard rounds. This is similar to what Bob is saying, only these are specifically lower recoil rounds.
I found a Model 60 at the local shop today, they are asking $425 for it. It looks to be in good shape and has the Missouri Highway Patrol emblem on the side of it. Is that what they are going for now or is it a little on the high side? Thanks for the help.