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    Sig vs. Springfield Armory

    Has anyone had the experience of firing a Springfield Armory XD 45 that can compare to the a P 220 or p 245. I am a novice shooter that currently owns a P 245 and was thinking of selling my Sig for an XD, but am hesitant to do so based on my experience with the accuracy of Sig (and the fact I do not like the way Glocks shoot at all and XD are similar?). A few gun informed and experianced individuals said they would not take a springfield over a sig....why would Sigs be that much better?

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    I like both, personally, but I am along the lines of "would never trade a Sig for an XD." To be honest, it is a matter of prefrance. There isn't much there to compare between the two as far as look, feel, etc. Two completely different guns. I think both are very accurate. Haven't heard a lot of complaints on either one. So that is a tough call. Have you shot an XD yet? I would most definetly shoot one before you go through with this.

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    I have a Sig p220 and a XD-40....Xd just feels better in my hands. Don't get me wrong, I love both of them. Alot easier to conceal the XD than the Sig. As far as accuracy, tend to have tighter groups with the XD.
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    I'm not saying Glocks and XD's are the same gun, but I think if you didn't like the Glock you probably won't like the XD.

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    Does anyone know about the recoil difference between the two 45 auto weapons? For instance the P 245 has been the first 45 auto I have been able to fire pretty managably with one hand. I have fired a XD 40 but that was 2 years ago and it was a 4.0
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    I have fired a Glock 45 one time, and was surprised that the recoil was less than I thought it would be. But, as before, I still hit low with the Glock trigger. Only Glock I have ever shot accurately is the Glock 34, because of the stock lighter trigger.

    Only 45s I have ever owned were 1911s. So, I have never really had the opportunity to shoot other 45s... Can't offer U any other advice....

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    Whether you like the XD or Sig boils down to personal preference. The XD is a plastic framed striker-fired, partially cocked DAO, with a grip safety. I wouldn't say it's "just like" Glock because of its superior ergonomics.
    The 220 is actually metal-framed(aluminum alloy or stainless steel). It's available in traditional DA, SA, or the DAO "DAK". If you really like your 245, a 220 would make a great upgrade.

    It seems to me that the Sig fits you if it's accurate in your hands. And that's the most important factor. It would only stand to reason that the 220 would suit you better. And I have no real bias toward either.

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    I've shot both. The XD seems to have less felt recoil, to me anyway. The XD shot very well for me. While the XD is similar to a Glock in many ways, the grip angle is much different. It's been a while since I shot a P220. I'd like to compare then side by side.

    I doubt that I would trade a Sig for an XD provided that the Sig worked well for me.

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    Sig VS XD

    I have shot both, own various Sigs and XDs. I will tell you in my opinion, and this will sound strange. I shoot the XD better, recoil felt is much less, but am more comfortable with a Sig. The XD feels like a 9mm in the recoil deptartment, but that is probably due to the 5" barrel. The Sig feels better shooting if you add a Hogue Grip. Both are excellent choices and I would buy more of both given the chance!!!

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    I've fired Sig and Springfield guns. Both are excellent, and to me, you can't go wrong with either of them. Perhaps the only issue for some people is the price difference.

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    Really a tough choice. I think it has to come down to personal preference, which means that you ought to shoot both side by side, and see what you like. I'm pretty sold on Sigs, myself. The XD's are getting excellent marks, both from people on this forum and the gun rags.

    With Sig, you have a lot of history in the gunmaking department, plus brand recognition, customer service, etc.

    XD doesn't have quite as storied a history, though Springfield Armory certainly does.

    We've noted in discussions on this forum before that there is a flavor of pistol ou there for every shape, size, preference, inseam, hat size, etc. Factoring out customer service and brand recognition: How does each work for you?
    I think I've got to go with the comparison test drive, at this point. It's the only way to be sure you get what you like.

    Ain't it great to be an American gun buyer???

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    Quote Originally Posted by reconNinja View Post
    I'm not saying Glocks and XD's are the same gun, but I think if you didn't like the Glock you probably won't like the XD.
    I'm an XD fan, however I am NOT a fan of Glocks. I would take an XD any day over a Glock.

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    I really enjoy my XD-45 Service Model. Very accurate even in my hands. The recoil is more than any 9MM I've shot but it is quite manageable. Many complaints or problems listed on various forums that the XD won't feed SWC. I can't get mine to feed them.
    I have never fired a Sig (yet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD-45 View Post
    I really enjoy my XD-45 Service Model. Very accurate even in my hands. The recoil is more than any 9MM I've shot but it is quite manageable. Many complaints or problems listed on various forums that the XD won't feed SWC. I can't get mine to feed them.
    I have never fired a Sig (yet).
    Excuse the newbie question here, but what is SWC?

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    SWC = semi-wadcutter. It is a type of bullet profile.

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    Thanks

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    Um, I wouldn't...

    Quote Originally Posted by FZR600KID View Post
    Has anyone had the experience of firing a Springfield Armory XD 45 that can compare to the a P 220 or p 245. I am a novice shooter that currently owns a P 245 and was thinking of selling my Sig for an XD, but am hesitant to do so based on my experience with the accuracy of Sig (and the fact I do not like the way Glocks shoot at all and XD are similar?). A few gun informed and experianced individuals said they would not take a springfield over a sig....why would Sigs be that much better?
    A Sig P245 is a really, really nice .45acp pistol with an alloy frame in a traditional double action (double / single) configuration. If it is anything like any of the Sigs I own, the action is very smooth and the single action trigger is light and glassy... The XD is an awkward- looking Croatian- manufactured Glock-knockoff. No one wanted one of these pistols when they were being imported as the 'IM Metal HS 2000' and selling for $300 or so; now that Springfield has their name on them, they're all the rage. I think they're okay guns, but I have a friend who shot two of them to death in six months each (.40 S&W, Springfield replaced them both times, good customer service and all...). He traded the last one towards a Kimber Gold Match at his LGS. I'm not saying I'd never carry an XD, but I would much rather shoot any Sig... I wouldn't trade in an Audi for a Chevy...

    "With a Sig, you're not only well-armed, you're well-dressed."
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    so I'm about to buy my first handgun, and this thread has been perfect, as my primary interests (based on reading information and not shooting, however) have been between the XD and the Sig. Clearly I won't know what is right for me until I can actually experience the two, but just holding them, the weight of the all-metal sig chassis feels better in my hand...thanks to all who have contributed here, even though I'm still confused! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenjihara View Post
    but I have a friend who shot two of them to death in six months each (.40 S&W, Springfield replaced them both times, good customer service and all...).
    I read a post on another forum this week - I forget which one. But a guy explained in detail a problem the design has, and he compared it to the Glock design. Apparently, from what I remember, the action of the slide can "beat" the locking block in the frame, and over time, cause it to fail. He claimed it was a design flaw. And, I will admit, I have seen a number of locking block issues discussed on the XD forum over time.

    After reading about this occassionally over the past few months, I would be hesitant to buy an XD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurzwaffe View Post
    so I'm about to buy my first handgun, and this thread has been perfect, as my primary interests (based on reading information and not shooting, however) have been between the XD and the Sig. Clearly I won't know what is right for me until I can actually experience the two, but just holding them, the weight of the all-metal sig chassis feels better in my hand...thanks to all who have contributed here, even though I'm still confused! lol

    Well, good luck. Let us know what ya end up getting... And yes, you should rent or try to borrow the guns U want and try them out first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    I read a post on another forum this week - I forget which one. But a guy explained in detail a problem the design has, and he compared it to the Glock design. Apparently, from what I remember, the action of the slide can "beat" the locking block in the frame, and over time, cause it to fail. He claimed it was a design flaw. And, I will admit, I have seen a number of locking block issues discussed on the XD forum over time.

    After reading about this occassionally over the past few months, I would be hesitant to buy an XD.
    thanks for that info...it's good to know ahead of time. I want to invest in a gun that will be with me for a long time (I'm less a trader, more a keeper...).

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