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      Quote Originally Posted by GCBHM View Post
      You miss the point here, but then I'm not surprised. Those who point the finger are often the most offensive. But let me try to offer some explanation here, since you jumped in.

      First, I wasn't looking to have the final word. I posted an article that I thought was intersting. It had some good comments until zeke chimes in trying to disprove something no one ever said. He isn't just stating his opinion here. He is actually trying to prove he is right. But the thing is no one ever said the .40 isn't a good round or that it is going away.

      Now, why you decided to chime in, I really don't know, but I suspect it is b/c you and I had a disagreement within the last few days in which it seemed to me you insisted on having a last word. Isn't that interesting. A pot...calling a kettle black...

      And it also seems that you're a bit of a stalker too!
      9 mm is the same as a 38 cal.

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      Quote Originally Posted by pic View Post
      9 mm is the same as a 38 cal.
      In caliber, they are very close. I'm not sure about ballistics, that is interesting.

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      Quote Originally Posted by zeke4351 View Post
      This is a list of state police.
      I googled up this list,


      Alabama Glock 22/23 (.40 S&W)
      Alaska Glock 22/23 (.40 S&W)
      Arizona Sig P226 (.40 S&W)
      Arkansas Glock 21SF (State Police), Glock 22 (S.P. Highway Patrol) (.45 ACP, .40 S&W)
      California S&W 4006TSW (.40 S&W)
      Colorado S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
      Connecticut Sig P226/P229 (.40 S&W) Switched to SIG P220 in 45ACP
      Delaware Sig P229 (.357Sig)
      Florida Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
      Georgia Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
      Hawaii (State Sheriff's Office, Honolulu) S&W M&P (9mm)
      Idaho Glock 21 (.45 ACP) or Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
      Illinois Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
      Indiana Glock 17 (9mm)
      Iowa S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
      Kansas Glock 21 (.45 ACP)
      Kentucky Glock 35 (.40 S&W)...........Transitioning to Gen 4 G35
      Lousiana Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
      Maine HK USP (.45 ACP)
      Maryland Beretta Px4 (.40 S&W)
      Massachusetts S&W M&P (.45 ACP)
      Michigan Sig P226 (.40 S&W)
      Minnesota Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
      Mississippi Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
      Missouri Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
      Montana Sig P229 (.357Sig)
      Nebraska Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
      Nevada Sig P229 (.40 S&W)
      New Hampshire S&W M&P (.45 ACP)
      New Jersey Sig 228 (9mm)
      New Mexico S&W M&P (.357 Sig).........The latest word is that NM has gone back to .40 for cost reasons
      New York Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
      North Carolina S&W M&P(.357Sig)
      North Dakota Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
      Ohio Sig P229/P226 (.40 S&W)
      Oklahoma Sig P226R (.357Sig)
      Oregon S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
      Pennsylvania Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
      Rhode Island Sig P229 (.357Sig)
      South Carolina Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
      South Dakota Sig P229 (.357 Sig)
      Tennessee Glock 31 (.357Sig)
      Texas Sig P229/P226 (.357Sig)
      Utah Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
      Vermont S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
      Virginia Sig P229RDAK (.357Sig)
      Washington S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
      West Virginia S&W 4566TSW (.45 ACP)
      Wisconsin Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
      Wyoming S&W M&P (.40 S&W)

      As you can see by the list the .40 S&W is the most used caliber. The 9mm is hardly used at all.
      I just learned tonight, from a LEO in GA, that the GSP just transitioned to the Glock 17 with the Glock 42 on the ankle, so it looks like the Google list is not as current as thought.

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      Michigan Sig P226 (.40 S&W) Just changed going glock 9mm

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      Quote Originally Posted by ddown View Post
      Michigan Sig P226 (.40 S&W) Just changed going glock 9mm
      You have a link? Thanks

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      I think the GLOCK is reliable and lighter in weight, Great service piece.

      The GLOCK has been around since 1982, I remember buying handguns in the 80's when the GLOCK emerged.

      The article talks about keeping up with the new technology.

      Personally, switching from the semi sig to a GLOCK is not that big a move.

      The police should have something greater then (the sig sauer,GLOCK),,,,shorter in length but equal to the AR and fits in a holster.
      Be safe, thanks
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      Quote Originally Posted by GCBHM View Post
      I personally went back to the 9mm a couple years ago. With technology today, you really don't need anything else.

      Way too broad of a statement. What you need is more dependent on the task at hand than anything else , for social work your statement may be correct , for defense against large predators or dangerous game.......not so much.

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      Nice weather we're having.

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      What handgun is best, Glock Barretta or Sig Sauer? I hear from alot of gun enthusiasts that Sig Sauer is and not really close

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      Police Agencies in New Hampshire carry Sig Sauer p220

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      Quote Originally Posted by deadbird9 View Post
      What handgun is best, Glock Barretta or Sig Sauer? I hear from alot of gun enthusiasts that Sig Sauer is and not really close
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      Sig Sauer is a very good choice !!

      How to handle a firearm as a police officer is very low on the list of requirements ,,,before actually becoming an officer

      I have a long list of reasons

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      Can't we all just get along ?
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      Quote Originally Posted by deadbird9 View Post
      Police Agencies in New Hampshire carry Sig Sauer p220
      I love the Sig p220. It is a great weapon, with a great reputation, but I'm afraid that I can't help wonder if the fact that Sig is located in NH played a part in the NH agencies choice.

      I'm willing to bet that Sig would be willing to make a great offer to any NH agency that was shopping around.

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      Quote Originally Posted by GCBHM View Post
      I personally went back to the 9mm a couple years ago. With technology today, you really don't need anything else.
      I keep hearing "With todays technology" about 9mm......The same technology has made the same improvements with the .45, .45 ACP and the .357 Sig.
      IMHO, this whole 9mm transition is because, poorly trained LEO's can't qualify on the range. Personally, I don't believe the FBI report and recommendation that the 9mm "Is all one needs".
      I suspect that if the lie about 9mm is sufficient and modern technology levels the field, blah, blah, blah, it may become the truth.
      But the truth is the .40, .45ACP and .357 Sig are far superior than the hottest 9mm +P+ available, period. No matter how many times the FBI 9mm lie is told, and gullible people believe it and repeat it, it doesn't change the facts or make it the truth.............

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