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Why Sig over Glock?

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#1 ·
I am a Sig lover. I have loved them ever since I owned and shot my first P226. Last year I purchased the P226 MK25, and LOVED it, but I also wanted to give the new Glock 17 Gen 4 a whirl. I've owned several Glocks over the years, but went away from them b/c the grip was just a little too uncomfortable compared to the P226. Although the 17 is a little better for conceal carry (I carry the G19 now), I felt the Sig fit me better and I am as accurate with it as with the Glock. Moreso at the time. However, when working with the G17 Gen 4 (it has a narrower grip which fits my hand perfectly) I noticed I was able to shoot very quickly and accurately. I was very impressed with the pistol. When I picked the MK25 back up to shoot, I started short stroking the trigger trying to shoot it as quickly I as could the G17. It took me a few minutes to figure this out, and once I did I was really disappointed b/c I love the MK25. So I began trying to get back to where I could shoot it without SSing the trigger. Alass, to no avail. When I picked the Glock back up, smooth, quick, accurate shots with no SSing. I traded the Sig. It seemed to me the Glock was my new pistol, and it is why I have two today. But I love the Sig P226 MK25. Why do you choose Sig? Would you go to the Glock under the conditions I've described? If not, what would you do?
 
#52 ·
Hey there Pic, thanks very much it's nice to be welcome! Not in love with glocks, but I wouldn't turn one down in a hurry. I definitely love their simplicity and I'm looking at picking up a g19 at some point in the near future. My concealed carry EDC for the moment is a CZ p-07 duty.
I like plenty of makes n styles myself, that CZ gets great reviews, also the g19.
:smt1099
 
#53 ·
Yeah, that was me with the previous generation Glocks. Some of them hurt (the .40 cal weapons) but even the G17, which is a really smooth shooting pistol, just didn't fit me that well. Then when I got my hands on the Gen 4 I was like whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...I had to buy one, and as you read above, the rest is history.
Same with me! When I held the Gen 4 models it felt like a world of difference. That said, I like my Glock 19 Gen 4 more after every range trip. :mrgreen:
 
#55 ·
A couple of weeks ago a member posted a question concerning overheating a handgun by shooting rapid fire. The consensus was that it was very unlikely. One of the members posted a video that started with a couple of men digging up a Glock 21 that had been buried for a year or more. They rinsed it off at a lawn faucet and headed for the pistol range. They (with the help of about 6 others) Proceeded to fire 500 rounds through it in about 8 minutes. There were about a handful of FTEs, but they were quickly cleared without tools. Anybody want to try that with any other brand of pistol? I'll stick with the Glock myself.
Goldwing
^One of the reasons I own 6 of them.^
 
#56 ·
A lot of good input! I have carried both and love both. Most recently, however, I switched to the HK VP9. Having never found an HK I really liked, I was never a real HK fan, but I recognized the quality. I liked the feel of the P30, but did not want to spend the $900 to get a polymer pistol when a Glock was $540. The VP9 changed all that! After several trips to the range comparing it to my EDC Glock 19 Gen4, I made the VP9 my EDC pistol. The ergonomics of the VP9 are superior to any other pistol I've handled, and the trigger is far superior to anything I've shot in the striker fire arenda. I like the PPQ, but I like the trigger on the VP9 better. Shorter take up, and quick reset. It's really a nice pistol!

So I agree 100% with Sempervigilans. Don't fall in love with a gun. You never know when the next one will find you.
 
#58 ·
GCBHM. I sympathize with your situation. I own both the Glock 17 and the SIG 226. And I can't decide which one is my favorite. I do love the consistent trigger pull on the Glock. But there's an argument for the longer first trigger on the SIG. One, supposedly, takes more training to avoid ND. The other, supposedly, takes more training to make the transition from DA to SA. Each is outstanding in its own way. I just can't decide. What a wonderful dilemma. :)
 
#59 ·
GCBHM. I sympathize with your situation. I own both the Glock 17 and the SIG 226. And I can't decide which one is my favorite. I do love the consistent trigger pull on the Glock. But there's an argument for the longer first trigger on the SIG. One, supposedly, takes more training to avoid ND. The other, supposedly, takes more training to make the transition from DA to SA. Each is outstanding in its own way. I just can't decide. What a wonderful dilemma. :)
Some will disagree , I will manually cock the hammer in the da/sa format, given , I have the opportunity .
Same with revolvers.
 
#60 ·
Being new to HGF I came a bit late to this particular party, but I just had to comment on this one. I truly believe that the best gun is the one that works for you, whenever you need it, every time. Never get too attached to the weapon you carry, because something better may come along and it'll be time to trade up. I feel like some people stick with certain guns that may not be the best option for them simply because of the stigma or ego that comes with that particular weapon. In my experience, SIGs and 1911's are prime examples of this phenomenon. Just because a gun is heavy and expensive, doesn't mean it's the right one. GLOCKs are the very definition of "economy of movement" and require very little expenditure of energy to use effectively.
For me, it is all about reliability. I can become accustomed to shooting about anything with practice, but if I need it and it just goes click??? - I'm dead... I'd rather have a zip gun that worked, than a beautiful, high tech anything else that won't fire.

Years ago, I owned a couple of pistols for home defense - neither were a Glock or Sig. I was having feeding issues with one of them. I had a boat on Clear Lake and went down to it every weekend to spend some quality time alone, hehe. The boat next to mine was owned by a live-aboard couple and the guy was an ex Navy Seal with two tours in Vietnam. He was also an 18 year veteran of the ATF. I asked his advice on what to own and he said the Sig/Sauer P229 is what he carried and all his fellow agents carried Sigs. He said they tested all pistols vigorously - buried in the sand, slide open - that kind of stuff. The Sig/Sauer pistols were the ONLY ones they couldn't get to fail. Trusting his advice, I bought a P229. I've got many years, with thousands of rounds run through my P229 and it has NEVER EVER failed to fire, or chamber, or eject. It has run flawlessly, even with ammo another gun of mine wouldn't run. I am sold on Sig. Glock??? - meh... I'm sure there are sound reasons for the Glock's popularity, but Glock over Sig???:oops:

Having said all this, I've never owned a Glock and probably never will. No need to own one, as long as I can buy a Sig or CZ. Glocks are waaay cheaper but they're just not my cup of tea. I love me a de-cocker too. I'm not hating on Glocks, I'm just loving on my Sig...:rolleyes:
 
#61 ·
You'd love my M&P 45 full size with the 4" barrel. I have the Apex DCAEK installed in it but with the factory OEM trigger spring. This setup returns a pull weight of just a few ounces under 5 pounds with a very crisp, almost 1911-like, break.

Nice write up. Were I to be of a wont to carry one of my own sidearms into a combat situation, I'd probably go with either my G22 or G17 (both are gen4's with my personal mods done them). Both are great shooters and since concealing them is not a factor in combat, their capacity would be primary as well as their utility and handling features. Next up would probably be either my M&P 9 Pro Series or my M&P 40, both with the 4.25" barrel.

The beauty of the current market is that there are so many really great handguns from which to choose. Hard to imagine someone not finding something that the really like and that will serve them well.
The current firearms market is loaded with great manufacturers producing superb high quality guns.
I have made it my practice to buy the best models from the manufacturers that I like n trust.
All of these companies are on equal level for me n here are my favorites from each--
Beretta. M9 n Px4 Storm
Smith. Any M+P. And Shield
SIG. P320 n P226
Glock.... Love the G21
Ruger... SR45 and Super Blackhawk 44mag SA
Walther PPQ
 
#63 ·
I've owned quite a number of Glocks , but I handload and having actually experienced the dreaded "KaBoom" on two different occasions with what were actually relatively mild loadings that my Sigs ( and 1911s) digest with impunity the Glocks are all gone. And of course there's the factor that has been previously cited by others here , Glocks just don't "fit" me from the ergonomic standpoint. Sigs do , and the Sigs have on an overall basis been more reliable for me than the various Glocks were. I'm one of those strange individuals that won't tolerate unreliability in a sidearm , even more so if the given sidearm is carried for defensive purposes.

That said , I really don't have anything against Glocks........as long as you stick to over the counter ammunition or pressures duplicating said ammunition , and I've recommended Glocks to a number of folks as a viable choice in a sidearm. They have a following for a reason , they have the market share that they do for a reason.

In the end it comes down to what the given individual shoots well , and frankly individual choice is what makes the world go 'round. I won't get into the plastic versus metal debate , I prefer all metal but that in no way invalidates the choice of someone else that prefers a polymer platform.
 
#64 ·
Michigan State Police must now turn in their SIG's as they are switching to Glock 17 9mm. Should save a lot of $$$

I was told that to remove the slide from a Glock, to clean it, one must also pull the trigger

This can't possibly be true, I must have heard wrong.

Did I?

Brings to mind how Our State saved money treating Flint water?? Hope not so.
 
#65 ·
You heard right, you must pull the trigger to remove the slide off a Glock frame. Not a big deal imo as long as you make sure the gun is unloaded. We use the Glock 22 and have not had issues with negligent discharges so far.

MSP's decision to switch was most likely due to weight reduction and round capacity benefits switching from Sig (.40 or 45ACP?) to Glock (9mm). I've been to a few schools where other officers were running 8 Rd (single stack) Sig P220's... the amount of reloading was ridiculous during a 300-400 rd shooting course.

BTW... welcome to the forum from SE Michigan.
 
#68 ·
Michigan State Police must now turn in their SIG's as they are switching to Glock 17 9mm. Should save a lot of $$$

I was told that to remove the slide from a Glock, to clean it, one must also pull the trigger

This can't possibly be true, I must have heard wrong.

Did I?

Brings to mind how Our State saved money treating Flint water?? Hope not so.
The water may be bad, but there's nothing wrong with the Glock 17. As for saving money? Why are they buying all new pistols if they already have Sig's? Unless of course if they are all worn out. Which I doubt. Seems to me that the money would be better spent towards Flint's water crisis. But that's government for you, one great big monopoly that is accountable to no one. After all it's not their money that they are wasting, and there's plenty more where that came from courtesy of the taxpayer.

As far as I know, with all "striker fired" pistols, the trigger must be pulled first in order to remove the slide. The striker/firing pin has a "tab" on the bottom that protrudes from a slot at the bottom of the slide. That "tab" engages with the trigger mechanism which is in the frame. Pulling the trigger releases and disengages the striker/firing pin from the trigger mechanism, clearing it, and allowing the slide to be removed from the frame. Of course the slide stop then must be released. On a Glock after the trigger is pulled the slide must be retracted about an eighth of an inch or so before disengaging the slide stop. Anything more and the pistol will re-cock itself and you'll have to pull the trigger again in order for it to clear.
 
#72 ·
I guess they classify them as that because the trigger as it is being pulled moves the striker all the way to the rear (step 1) and then releases it (step 2)? But for all intents and purposes it has a single action (SA) trigger pull. Each pull of the trigger being the same. Similar to a 1911.
No,The same pull does not make it single or double action. There are plenty of true DAO guns that have the same pull.
 
#73 ·
As far as I know, with all "striker fired" pistols, the trigger must be pulled first in order to remove the slide. The striker/firing pin has a "tab" on the bottom that protrudes from a slot at the bottom of the slide. That "tab" engages with the trigger mechanism which is in the frame. Pulling the trigger releases and disengages the striker/firing pin from the trigger mechanism, clearing it, and allowing the slide to be removed from the frame. Of course the slide stop then must be released. On a Glock after the trigger is pulled the slide must be retracted about an eighth of an inch or so before disengaging the slide stop. Anything more and the pistol will re-cock itself and you'll have to pull the trigger again in order for it to clear.
No, this is not true of all striker-fired pistols. To field strip the SIG P320 requires removing the magazine and locking the slide back, but does not require pulling the trigger. I am not sure how much additional safety this imparts but SIG Sauer makes quite a deal of it in their advertising. I guess there have been more than a few NDs that occurred with Glocks (and other SFA pistols) during attempts to field strip them, even though it is one of those things that "should" never happen.
 
#74 ·
No, this is not true of all striker-fired pistols. To field strip the SIG P320 requires removing the magazine and locking the slide back, but does not require pulling the trigger. I am not sure how much additional safety this imparts but SIG Sauer makes quite a deal of it in their advertising. I guess there have been more than a few NDs that occurred with Glocks (and other SFA pistols) during attempts to field strip them, even though it is one of those things that "should" never happen.
There are several more as well. The XDM, VP9, and the HK P7 variants do not require the trigger to be pulled for disassembly.

Probably a couple more out there as well.
 
#75 ·
Ok, I am going to throw in my opinion as a retired vet spending most of my adult life in the Military and Private security sector. Most law enforcement agencies, if any issue sidearms. And lets face it our LE officers are underpaid big time, so this puts the Glocks in reach of LE and civilians for an affordable price, And an accurate fairly reliable side arm, with proper care.
With that being said, and PLEASE do not misunderstand me, because I love my HK 45's, but in my eyes and the general population of our military ANY weapon that consists of a polymer or plastic registered frame is DISPOSABLE. I have upgraded every Beretta I own, or have carried in service by replacing plastic parts with steel and higher quality springs. On the other hand My Sig P220's have NO modifications, only proper cleaning and maintenance, Last year I purchased a spring kit and new grips for one of my P220's that has been to Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and South America. I had considered a new barrel, but with my aging eyes, I still drive nails with it.
 
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