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    i'm not trying to start any debates, i will just tell you from my experience (which is quite limited) i do like the .40 the best out of any of the pistol calibers i've shot (.22, .38, 9mm, .40, .45). 9mm just doesn't do it for me. I know there are a lot of people here who love the caliber, and I'm not saying anything against it other than IMHO the kick is wimpy, it's not as loud or as mean, and it's not as fun to shoot. .45s are fun too, but the limited magazine capacity (7 or 8 rounds with a lot of pistols) and the somewhat unruly recoil would make it difficult for me to shoot all day. that's why when i bought my sig pro i bought it in .40

    .40 is fun. You can get 100 rounds of winchester white box for like 27-28$ at walmart. Make sure you clean it soon after though, that is not exactly the cleanest ammo.

    Anyway, that's my $.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkypunk97 View Post
    I think you'll be OK ......Obama is not going to ban guns on January 20th....

    And since you live in Texas, there is no federal ban that is going to affect your state at all......

    Don't forget the states have the right to say "FU<# Y0U" to the federal government on anything they feel is unconstitutional...... so Obama is not going to ban anything in any red state.....
    First, considering all the barrel swapping and what not, have you considered looking into the Sig P250?

    Second, I also agree with the Jan 20th not being a "deadline" so to say. The priorities for Obama and Congress will most likely be the hot button issues of the economy and the dual wars we're fighting. Also, something like a gun law would take months to over a year to pass through when one considers all of the committees, lobbyists, discussions, and what not. Take for example, the new GI Bill, very popular bill that took in excess of a year to push through.

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    Sounds to me like you want the .40 and thats it, buy your .40 and a Mosquito and you have two weapons that basically function the same. Use CCI mini mags in the mosquito keep it clean and practice practice practice.

    You can buy the Mosquito new for the cost of either of the conversion kits.

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    Try taking a 40 or 357Sig (which use the same breech face) to using a 9mm bullet. And when the weapon won't cycle with repeatability, or blows up in your face.. you can tell me, if you can still speak.
    Well, I can still speak after purchasing, installing and shooting the Bar Sto barrel for 9mm in my Sig P226ST. Not only can I speak, but I can speak with a smile on my face. I use the P226 9mm Magazines and I have not had one malfunction yet in over 1000 rounds.

    Of course, maybe I misunderstood the question.

    I would, and have purchased a Sig .40 S&W and used the drop in barrel. Many others have as well with great success. Some even use the .40S&W/.357 mags and it still works, but with some failures to feed.

    The only downside was the 6 month wait for the Bar-Sto barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhurdan View Post

    If I'm wrong, Ill swallow a dollar bill sideways on film for it.

    Zhurdan
    Oh, I hadn't seen that part when I made my post. Will this be available on youtube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpiusdeus View Post
    Oh, I hadn't seen that part when I made my post. Will this be available on youtube?

    I suppose I could if I could get a dollar bill to stay sideways with any sort of repeatability... kinda like my statement...

    Fine...
    Try taking a 40 or 357Sig (which use the same breech face) to using a 9mm bullet. And when the weapon won't cycle with repeatability, or blows up in your face.. you can tell me, if you can still speak.
    You may very well be getting good repeatability out of yours, but every "presto-chango" barrel swap deal I've read about specifically states that extraction may present problems. I'll have to find one and scan it in if you want proof of that too. It's quite possible that the extractor will do it's job, but I sure as hell wouldn't count on it to function on a defensive pistol. Besides, I'd say practice with what you carry, or you're just burning powder. If you're trying to find a cheaper way to become proficient with your carry weapon, switch to bulk ammo in the same caliber, as shooting high quality defense loads can be expensive, but switching to a .22 conversion kit or even a 9mm conversion kit and practicing defensive shooting when you'll be normally carrying a .357 Sig, well, you aren't going to shoot them the same.

    Zhur

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    I bought the 9mm conversion barrel to shoot USPSA Production. I practice with the .40 S&W barrel every time to go to the range for practice. practice week hand shooting, clearing jams, failure drills ect.

    Still, for defensive purposes, I practice more the my P239 and M&Pc both in .40 S&W.

    For competition, I am going to 9mm.

    I buy bulk ammo all the time. It does help, but I really need to start reloading.

    How many rounds should I be able to shoot in my 9mm conversion barrel before I can claim "repeatability"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpiusdeus View Post
    How many rounds should I be able to shoot in my 9mm conversion barrel before I can claim "repeatability"?
    I'm not quite sure if you are just trying to "bait" me into an argument or not, but if indeed you are, sorry, you won't get me into this type of silly debate that can't be proven either way. It's like saying that you can dig a hole with a spoon. Sure, you can, but a shovel is best, that's what its intented use was. If you want a 9mm, buy a 9mm, if you want a 40, buy a 40. I just don't see the point in using something in a way that it was not originally designed for.

    Can the extractor pull the case out? Sure.
    Can the extractor have problems doing so? Sure.
    Can it function flawlessly? Sure.
    Can it fail at any moment? Sure.

    You see, the point is, there's no way to "win" an argument like this. I was simply pointing out to the original poster that case heads are different sizes, and there is a drastic potential for problems. Just because something can be done, doesn't mean it's the best solution. Spending close to $300 for a "semi-drop in barrel" seems a bit silly to me. You could simply save up for a couple more months and buy a whole new pistol in a different caliber. No need for troubleshooting, no need to worry if it'll work every time as intended, no need to keep parts straight. Just pick up the 9mm and load her up for a fun shooting session.

    If indeed you are not trying to "bait" me into an argument, then please accept my apologies, and also please accept my retraction of the "If I'm wrong, Ill swallow a dollar bill sideways on film for it." It was meant for emphasis and dramatic flare. Sometimes it pays not to PWUI.

    Zhur

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    I was seriously just curios to know what your standards were. You make some valid points about just saving up for another gun.

    Maybe I'm just lucky, but sometimes, luck is enough.

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