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I walked my dog today and decided to carry my p220. I was so paranoid. I guess I am so use to my xd-40, with its grip safety. I had my p220 cocked with one in the chamber and felt really weird. I guess it's just something I have to get use to. :roll:
Well, every once in a while, I carry my HK USP compact. When I do, I carry it cocked and locked.
A sig doesn't have a frame safety though, does it? Just a decocker, right?
That's correct Shipwreck. I guess that's why it has a 10lb triger pull.
it's a double action,so you can carry it uncocked...
The double action auto is an ingenious solution to a nonexistent problem.”
-Jeff Cooper
You have every right to be concerned carrying a P220 cocked... That would bother me also...
I promise, if you need the pistol, you will not be bothered by that harder double action first trigger pull. Yet, just a small tug on that trigger and someone’s going to get hurt the way you were carrying it...
Ever hear of a New York trigger? Glock put a harder than normal trigger on their Glocks just for the NYPD because of the trigger being too easy to pull in an emergency situation. I'm not sure if the NYPD had a problem with it or not, but they were aware of the situational potential...
Please, for safety's sake, don't carry your P220 cocked... :cry:
Were you carrying a P220 with a round in the chamber with the hammer cocked? If so, that is asking for trouble unless you have one of the SA models that allows for cocked-and-locked carry.
Yes, I was carrying it cocked with one one in the chamber. I keep forgetting it does not have a external manuel safety. I guess from now on, I will carry it uncocked with one in the chamber.
That's a scarry thing to forget.Quote:
Originally Posted by L8models
I guess I made that sound alot worse than it is. I should have said I should have became 100% fimiliar with my p220 before I made it my carry weapon. I have never carried a handgun without a manuel safety, with the excemption of my xd-40. I have very good knowledge of how semi-auto's operate. However, I might not should have had one in the chamber and cocked but, I am always 110% responsible and alert when I carry so, it wasn't a problem. But accidents do happen.
Please use the de cock lever and let the hammer down. carry it this way MUCH safer thanks. moses
Don't take it personally man. I know you're probably not, but just know that everyone is here to help and give advice. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by L8models
BTW - With that said, don't expect to much from myself....I still have newbie stink all over me. :P
Oh, not at all. I will admit, there is ALOT I don't know....lol. I come to this site to ask and learn and gain information. I do understand people are here to help and I appreciate and respect that. :lol:
L8models, If I were you I would go to the range and learn how to shoot D/A. I watch a lot of people stage the trigger rather than pull the trigger straight through. Pull the trigger straight through until doing it is a rote skill and you should then be fine. I admit the only Sig I like is the P228; I much prefer a 1911 but that might just be me. Remember, that I sold a like new P220 last Fall to a friend for $375 due to my distain for Sigs. Regards, Richard :lol:
L8,
Your dog is going to be your early warning system, if trouble comes your way. Just carry with your a round in the chamber and decocked.....much safer, if you are nervous about your previous method. Prersent the weapon, if a threat appears and fire DA....No problems.....
I love carrying a Sig for just this reason. There is no clumsy safety to de-activate in case you need to fire quickly. Before you holster the gun, load it, chamber one and use the de-cocking lever. You can hit the hammer with a brick and it won't fire. The trigger has it's 10lb DA first pull and it's very safe.
If you actually are forced to use it I'd prefer pulling a bit harder on the trigger one time than concerning myself about taking off a manual safety.
I really like the 220. I have shot my friends several times and plan on buying one (hopefully soon). The DA/SA is not that hard to get used to if you practise. You have a very nice pistol there, that will serve you well for years to come. If you really need to use your weapon you won't notice a 10lb trigger pull.
The Balester-Molina (BM), pictured below, will out shoot the P220 I sold and it will do it all day long. I have $500 in the BM and a P220 is worth quite a bit more. Regards, Richard :lol:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...7/fa38cbe0.jpg
Put one in the pipe and de-cock and don't wory about it ... I was a State Trooper for 25 years last 12 carrying Sig P226 first in 9mm then in 40S&W always one in the pipe with the weapon de-cocked never a problem EVER...
Paranoia will overtake your good sense of judgement
I'm new to this forum but not to handguns. What you are doing is asking for trouble. You are correct, accidents do happen. You are asking for an AD or ND.
Please take everyone's advice.
Jeff Cooper has mentioned that carrying in Condition Zero like this isn't horribly dangerous as long as you have a firm holster that encloses the trigger guard. I guess that means it's only borderline dangerous!
There's no reason to do this; the SIG pistols are perfectly safe when carried as intended - in Condition Two. Do everyone a favor and don't carry a pistol you're unfamiliar with. When you negligently shoot yourself in the ass, or shoot someone else unintentionally, you'll make all of us look bad.
Well, considering I have been carrying the sig the "right" way since I first posted that, no one's been shot in the ass thus far and there are no marks on me. So, it's all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Barham at Galco
When I have my sigpro, I keep it condition three(full mag, clear chamber). It doesn't seem like it will take any more time than it does for me to pull it out than to rack the slide as well. I can do this instantly, but I also have the option of using the cocking action as an added intimidation factor if my assailant isn't a high threat(ie, unarmed or armed with a bat or something), instead of firing a shot in the air or something which could potentially be dangerous.
What are yall's thoughts on this?
well firing a shot in the air is negligent disharge no matter what,eveyone within range is now in danger,not a good idea,Quote:
Originally Posted by reconNinja
Even if you do end up having to shoot the BG they will probably charge you for it.(the negligent discharge that is)
Is a glock with no external safety any different from him carrying the Sig with hammer back? I never really understood this.
instead of firing a shot in the air or something which could potentially be dangerous.
I was saying that's what I wouldn't do. I don't need input on what I wouldn't do, thx :D
gunut- Glocks have roughly 9lb trigger pulls, which is about the same amount as a Sig when the hammer is down, if that helps.