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    I had a wait of a couple of weeks. I like the pistol a lot. I plan to carry it extsensively. I consider it an excellent concealed carry firearm for citizen self defense.

    I don't know why some people are so upset about the inclusion of a safety on the pistol. I think it is excellent and will use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuthis View Post
    I don't know why some people are so upset about the inclusion of a safety on the pistol. I think it is excellent and will use it.
    I agree!
    I posted a question in some other forums and in the majority of replies, most did not like having a safety on a handgun PERIOD!.

    Be Safe and enjoy the LC9.

    Lateck,

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    I held one yesterday.It is a good feeling gun.

    As far as safties go. Just because there is one doesn't mean you have to use it.

    I am not a fan of safties however I own handguns with safties on them and don't hate the weapons.

    RCG

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    Buds Gun Shop says they have a bunch.

    I just posted a review of the LC9 by Walt Rauch. Here's an excerpt from his range report:

    "At the range, I found the LC9 performed better than I’d expected in a few areas. After firing 14 rounds of Winchester and Remington 115-grain FMJ ammo, I didn’t experience the anticipated hand stinging I’ve come to expect from shooting some (but not all) of the current crop of micro and mini handguns. My associate, AJ Stuart, volunteered to do the chronograph work using a Competition Electronics chronograph. As he finished the seventh batch of five rounds, he commented his hand began to sting on each of the last five shots he fired, which were with CCI Gold Dot +P ammunition.

    Here are our chrono results:

    * Black Hills 115-grain FMJ: 1,027 fps
    * CCI/Speer 124-grain +P Gold Dot HP: 1,080 fps
    * Cor-Bon 115-grain +P DPX: 1,244 fps
    * Federal HydraShok 147-grain JHP: 925 fps
    * Hornady 124-grain TAP CQ: 1,054 fps
    * Hornady 124-grain XTP HP: 1,001 fps
    * Winchester 147-grain SXT Personal Protection JHP: 934 fps

    Note: The LC9 instruction book states the gun is rated for and can handle +P ammunition, but cautions “… a steady diet of +P ammunition will shorten the endurance life …” The manual also clearly states (in red ink) “Do not use +P+ ammunition.” It goes on to explain there is no SAMMI or CIP pressure limits on +P+ and use of this ammunition could result in serious injury. While most users will not find such ammunition available for purchase (it’s only made for and at the request of some “official” agencies), keep this in mind if you’re reloading 9mm.

    Speaking of reloads, another friend with us at the range had some of his 9mm reloads, which he loads to be mild. The LC9 functioned with these and as a bonus made shooting the LC9 very pleasant. (The factory warranty is, of course, void if you use reloads.)

    AJ and I shot for groups at 17 yards and then a more realistic 10 yards. At 17 yards shooting indoors under fluorescent lighting while seated with arms supported on the shooting bench, our five-shot groups ranged from 2.25″–3.5″. In most defensive applications, shooter will use such a small handgun at much closer distances, but there are exceptions. Example: Law enforcement officers are often required to pass an off-duty handgun qualification test with the particular handgun they have selected for such use. Many of these courses include shooting—and hitting—at 15 yards. The reasoning behind this? Even off duty, the officer might have to engage a threat such as in a shopping mall or a large commercial establishment.

    The LC9 has a long trigger pull, but the stroke was smooth enough to make the 8-lb. trigger weight manageable. The LC9 trigger action requires the trigger to run fully forward to reset in order to fire again. In essence, shoot the LC9 as you would pull the double-action trigger of a revolver.

    Its sights are large enough and the rear sight notch wide enough (as noted earlier) that the resulting sight picture provides lots of light visible on both sides of the front sight, enabling you to fully use all your marksmanship skills, even in dim light. Bottom line: Shooting at 10 yards, more often than not we were able to achive under 2″ five-shot groups."

    Full article is here: Ruger LC9 Review | GunGunsGuns.net

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    I went in to buy the LC9 and the owner brought out the comperable Keltec and the Taurus Mill. 9mm. The 3 were comperable in size but the trigger pull (important to me even though I shoot often my favorite 9mm the SR9) is as different as night and day. Caused me to not buy my compact 9mm. The Taurus had the best pull of the 3. Wow. Now what to do, oh what to do.

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    the keltec is so light that real 9mm loads make it very hard to control, and the frame being pinned together, along with the extention mainspring, worry me a lot. I will have to look realy hard at the Ruger, The Taurus is a bit heavy, but I could live with it. The PM9 Kahr is quite nice, a used one is probably the best answer.

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    I am astounded at how much focus people have on trigger pulls. When one is in a crisis, pumped with adrenalin, three times stronger than normal and frightened half to death, the trigger pull means nothing. Focus in your practice on the target, and putting rounds into it in the right places. When I practice shooting I do not practice target shooting. I imagine an opponent trying to kill me, and I focus on putting rounds into that opponent. I hype myself and I can shoot with any trigger at that point. Target shooting can be fun, and helpful in some ways; but it is almost the antithesis of self defense. Point shooting, shooting over the sights, or bringing the sights in line quickly are the important issues. Putting your rounds where they belong does not require a tuned and soft trigger. It requires focus on the target and drilling in panic mode.

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    I got my LC9 early. I really love it. An excellent local gun shop in Tucson, Murphy's Gunsmithing, was able to get it as soon as it was available. It is compact enough to carry in my front pocket. It holds 7 rounds and it is reliable and accurate at self defense range. It point shoots very well; like an extension of the hand. I am not familiar with any potential competitors, but I have a confidence in Ruger that makes me comfortable; from experience. I recommend it without reservation.

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    WOW, After 5 months it came in and i cant wait to shoot it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuthis View Post
    I am astounded at how much focus people have on trigger pulls. When one is in a crisis, pumped with adrenalin, three times stronger than normal and frightened half to death, the trigger pull means nothing. Focus in your practice on the target, and putting rounds into it in the right places. When I practice shooting I do not practice target shooting. I imagine an opponent trying to kill me, and I focus on putting rounds into that opponent. I hype myself and I can shoot with any trigger at that point. Target shooting can be fun, and helpful in some ways; but it is almost the antithesis of self defense. Point shooting, shooting over the sights, or bringing the sights in line quickly are the important issues. Putting your rounds where they belong does not require a tuned and soft trigger. It requires focus on the target and drilling in panic mode.
    Nicely put.

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    i don't know if Ruger is catching up, or what, but almost every dealer in the St Louis area has the LC9 in stock. One of the shops even told me that they are selling very few of them. i thought he was going to bash the gun, but rather he raved about it, and can't understand the slow sales. Average price in our area is $379. i think it may be one of my next toys.

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    Got my LC9 last week and put 250 rnds through it without a proble and its accurate. I like this gun more than I thought I would.Its much better than the PF-9, I had one and sold it after the take down pin kept walking out(long story) and Ruger's customer service is leap and bounds over Taurus..(had one). Ruger did thier homework on this one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuthis View Post
    I am astounded at how much focus people have on trigger pulls. When one is in a crisis, pumped with adrenalin, three times stronger than normal and frightened half to death, the trigger pull means nothing. Focus in your practice on the target, and putting rounds into it in the right places. When I practice shooting I do not practice target shooting. I imagine an opponent trying to kill me, and I focus on putting rounds into that opponent. I hype myself and I can shoot with any trigger at that point. Target shooting can be fun, and helpful in some ways; but it is almost the antithesis of self defense. Point shooting, shooting over the sights, or bringing the sights in line quickly are the important issues. Putting your rounds where they belong does not require a tuned and soft trigger. It requires focus on the target and drilling in panic mode.
    I agree to a point but would argue when the balloon goes up that is the most important time to have a good trigger. Mentally confidence inspiring and practically speaking one less thing that can go wrong as in jerking a heavy crap trigger. Agreed a good operator will make do with the tools they have at hand at the time but in a world of good options make mine a trigger I am comfortable with and have confidence in please. If a P3AT is all I had I'd make do but if the vastly superior (to me anyway) trigger of the LCP were an option make mine an LCP please. If the LC9 versus the PF9 follows the same evolutionary course then I'd want the LC9.

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    I think with the heavy trigger pull the safety isnt a neccesity but so wat if its there? Nice to have but just dont use it if you dont like it. HG

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