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    LCP Recall

    Here we go again! Ruger has just posted a recall for the LCP for the same reason they did for the SR9... the gun may go off if dropped.

    Here is the link with all the information...

    http://www.ruger-firearms.com/LCPRecall/index.html

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    I think that it shows what kind of company Ruger is to recall them in the first place, replace them for free, ship for free and back with a free mag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon1 View Post
    I think that it shows what kind of company Ruger is to recall them in the first place, replace them for free, ship for free and back with a free mag.
    AKA the CYA approach.

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    I just got off the phone with Ruger. They are currently waiting on parts for this recall, but put my name on the list. When they have the stuff on hand they will ship me a box to send it to them. He said expect 1 week turn around on the gun once I ship it in. Seems pretty easy. I guess, for a new mag with finger extension, I won't complain.

    You guys are really on the ball with the info. He said the recall came out 5pm Eastern time.

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    I talked with them earlier today too. They are also going to put the newer slide stop on and re-mill the area where the peening has occured in the older guns.

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    No complaints from me either. I'll take a free magazine and pinky extension anytime.

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    Huh. A company designs an unsafe pistol, sell tens of thousands of them before initiating a recall for which they don't actually have parts, and LCP owners are thanking them.

    Glad I stuck with my KelTec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    Huh. A company designs an unsafe pistol, sell tens of thousands of them before initiating a recall for which they don't actually have parts, and LCP owners are thanking them.
    I have to agree that this is rather surprising to me. I personally wouldn't be so grateful.

    I agree that it's great that they admit to the problem and do their best to fix it, but that wouldn't make it all better since I was getting a free magazine with a pinky extension. Especially since they just went through the same thing with the SR9. I most certainly wouldn't be purchasing any new releases from Ruger for a long time.

    A P3AT or LCP is going to be my next firearms purchase. Considering this, the fact that they're pretty much the same gun, and it will reside in my pocket for the majority of the time, I think I'll go with the ugly, yet functional, P3AT.

    Just my .02

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    How many recalls have you ever had to participate in?
    Most that I have the luck to end up in is where I have to take (or ship) the product in at my time and expense to get it fixed. I have had this happen with vehicles, camper, home appliances, etc. costing me gas and or shipping charges. In my experience all you get is a fixed product. Ruger, in my opinion, has gone the extra mile with the offer of a free magazine for the trouble.
    Granted, recalls aren't desirable, but I think as far as a recall is concerned Ruger is trying to do good by this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikej997 View Post
    Granted, recalls aren't desirable, but I think as far as a recall is concerned Ruger is trying to do good by this one.
    A product recall is a request to return to the maker a batch or an entire production run of a product, usually due to the discovery of safety issues. The recall is an effort to limit liability for corporate negligence (which can cause costly legal penalties) and to improve or avoid damage to publicity.
    Product Recall

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikej997 View Post
    Granted, recalls aren't desirable, but I think as far as a recall is concerned Ruger is trying to do good by this one.
    They'd do even better by hiring engineers who can design safe pistols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikej997 View Post
    Granted, recalls aren't desirable, but I think as far as a recall is concerned Ruger is trying to do good by this one.
    They're not doing good or being nice. Now that they are aware of the problem, every unmodified gun is a liability for Ruger - a HUGE liability and will remain on their books as such. That means their insurance premiums will go up, their lawyer bills will go up, and since they've got additional liabilities on their books, it will cost them more to borrow money. Not to mention, if one or more of these guns were to be dropped and kills its owner or other bystander (kids, wife, etc.) it would have the potential to bankrupt them, depending how good the survivor's lawyers are. That's why they're being so "nice". And having this happen on two models is double the problem. They'll be paying for this for a long long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    They'd do even better by hiring engineers who can design safe pistols.
    Between this mess and the SR9, I'm sure a couple of people have gotten their walking papers already.

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    Kel-Tec has "decent" Customer Service too... and free mags!

    I ordered a belt-clip, a pinky-hook, and a spare mag for my '3AT. They sent me two mags and the pinky hook by mistake. I called, they appologized profusely, told me to keep the mag for free, and shipped the clip the same day...

    THAT is Customer Service... not a free mag as bribery for your silence.

    I'll keep my "crappy" Kel-Tec, thanks... Call it a Kel-Tank... ugly, but damn effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    They'd do even better by hiring engineers who can design safe pistols.
    Didn't Kel-Tec recently redo the hammer block or something on your beloved P3AT's? So what's the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev74 View Post
    They're not doing good or being nice. Now that they are aware of the problem, every unmodified gun is a liability for Ruger - a HUGE liability and will remain on their books as such. That means their insurance premiums will go up, their lawyer bills will go up, and since they've got additional liabilities on their books, it will cost them more to borrow money. Not to mention, if one or more of these guns were to be dropped and kills its owner or other bystander (kids, wife, etc.) it would have the potential to bankrupt them, depending how good the survivor's lawyers are. That's why they're being so "nice". And having this happen on two models is double the problem. They'll be paying for this for a long long time.

    I understand all of this. The liability is the same with almost any recall, from meat to baby beds. Once they announce the recall and publish it, their lability is decreased a lot. If someone chooses not to participate, well then, that is their problem isn't it? Ruger is offering an incentive to participate here.
    A big recall that comes to mind is the Firestone tire recall on Ford vehicles a few years ago. Lots of liability and even more exposure to both companies due to the numbers of recalled vehicles with those tires out there. The did not offer any incentive. They did not bounce for the gas. They did not make it necessarily easy or quick. All you got, if you took your vehicle in at your own expense and time, was the replacement parts if needed, and the knowledge that it probably won't kill you now.
    All I am saying is that I feel Ruger is at least trying to make this recall better by offering something. Having it happen on two models does definitely raise the question about design though.
    I have shot a P3AT and given the choice between the two, I would choose Ruger again any time. This recall doesn't give me any real concerns like it does some of you, shoot, I still drive a Ford even after the recall on their tires (and several others I can't remember what for). I know there are supposedly reliable P3ATs out there, and congratulations to those of you who got one, but from what I understand there are way more reliable LCPs.

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    At first I really wanted one then I came to my senses and decided to wait until all the bugs were out. I figure this time next year I will either buy or pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Outlaws View Post
    Didn't Kel-Tec recently redo the hammer block or something on your beloved P3AT's? So what's the difference?
    I'll go out on a limb here and say there is a difference between a redesign that mildly improves the function of a safe pistol, and recalling a patently unsafe pistol after JUST RECALLING another pistol for the VERY SAME problem.

    Ruger isn't doing anyone any favors here. This is CYA for a major engineering blunder. Strange that the company that has for decades plastered their guns with safety warnings keeps punching out unsafe designs.
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    different owners?

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    Same owner, but different bosses now that Mr. Ruger is gone. From what I have read about him, there would have been hell to pay if this happened under his watch.

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