Shaking hand with the Devil

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      Supporting Member JimmySays's Avatar
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      Shaking hand with the Devil

      After purchasing my S&W 340PD I read a blog at http://tenring.blogspot.com/2005/01/one-from-vault.html A woman named Denise gave a very explicite description of her experience with the 340PD in .357 Mag. I was intimidated for a moment, I only continued with great apprehension.
      My first rounds downrange were WWB 38 Special, 130GR. FMJ. A pleasure to shoot, even though double action only, @ 7 yards all shots were on target.Next came the Federal Premium 129Gr. Hydra-Shok 38+P. Felt the extra recoil, but kept the shots on target. Followed this with Speer 135 GR. GDHP Short Barrel HP. My .454 Casull SHR Alaskan has a little stronger recoil but much better grips. The S&W 340PD has no real grip, you are basically holding onto the frame and riding the lightning in the Magnum mode. I shot Mag Tech 158GR SJHP and PMC 158GR JSP. None of these were a pleasure to shoot. The recoil was extreme, with better grips it would have been more pleasant.
      Bottom line: I was able to keep all my shots on target from 7 yards offhand. All shots were double action(of course) and this was the first time I fired this weapon. You can save $300 and get the 38+P 342PD, I was able to keep all my shots in the kill zone with the .357 with no real discomfort. I choose the .357 because I can manage the recoil and I want a definitive fight stopper. The 38+P is good, but the .357 Mag in the chest cavity is game over.
      My photos of my targets will folllow this post(I hope)

      The Pros: Concealable, lightweight, concealable and lightweight plus mucho stopping power. 12 ounces unloaded.

      The Cons: Firing without sunlight the HI-Viz sight was nothing more than a black front post.(I have a XS Big Dot Tritium on my kitchen table)
      The S&W Manual states not to fire a bullet less than 120 grains. Also says to test fire all .357 ammo, fire 4 rounds, empty the cylinder and check to see if the 5th rounds bullet has become unseated from excessive recoil.
      FYI- All the .357 ammo I shot had the bullets come unseated. I will post pictures. It was not enough to cause cylinder lockup (prevent a follow up shot) but it was noticeable.
      In the pursuit of science I shot WWB .357 Mag 110 Gr. for a control group. Results were the same, bullet unseated but not enough to prevent follow up shot .
      Expended brass did not want to eject.(Get your first 5 on target)

      My final opinion is this is a keeper! I will call S&W Monday and see if they recommend a round/load for this weapon that will keep the bullet in the brass. I jog/walk with this weapon in a belly band and it is almost unnoticable.
      I did take an expended round, scotch tape across the primer and cycle it through the cylinder to ensure a primer strike before I carried it for PD. I have bought weapons that would not fire or feed out of the box.
      This is a beast and not a weapon for the recoil sensitive. I will keep it because I trust the .357's stopping power(be it a human or a truck) and I feel confident I can and will get my first shots on target. Most gunfights are within spitting distance. I will sacrifice quantity and fast reload for lightweight and comfort.

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      38 special, 38+P and .357

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      All .357 loads. 3 rounds hidden under pistol. Need a trigger job.(could'nt have been the shooter)

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      Left, left and middle unseated. Pretty easy to tell, did not cause cylinder lockup(luckily)
      Last edited by JimmySays; 10-20-2007 at 12:51 AM.

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      Senior Member Mike Barham's Avatar
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      Do you have a shot timer? I'm curious about your split times.
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      Senior Member Baldy's Avatar
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      I can tell you one thing for sure and that is she better hit the target with the first shot. There just to light for me. I perfer a gun around 25oz up for .357's.

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      Everyone I know who have bought any of the lightweight S&W revolvers 357 and over don't care for them. They are great looking that I'll say but no thanks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Baldy View Post
      I can tell you one thing for sure and that is she better hit the target with the first shot. There just to light for me. I perfer a gun around 25oz up for .357's.
      I have a Taurus 617 .357 Mag. 3 pair and a spare (7 shot) and it is an absolute pleasure to shoot compared to this pistol. When jogging with a belly band if I could carry my 617, or my Para P14 Limited or my Glock 21 with my .400 CorBon Barrel and 3 extra mags I would. I have a plethura(to quote Mike Barham) of handguns 20+, but sometimes it comes down to the right tool for the job. This pistol is right for me in the situation. I will get on target, on time.
      I don't have a timer Mike, but rest assured I would not have broken any records. I emptied the pistol in the 3 plus second range, I will get my shots on target. I am going to send Mighty Mite for a trigger job and get my XS Sight System Big Dot tritium installed.
      I can understand anyones reluctance to carry this pistol and sympathize with you, but I can handle the recoil and get my shots on target. If not I would use the 38+P or the 38 Special that was a pure pleasure to shoot.

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