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I did a lot of forum research before I bought my PM9. Mine would FTRB during the first 200 rounds. I had read of others having the same problem on other forums before I purchased it. I called Kahr and they sent me a new barrel and recoil spring/guide rod assembly. It was shipped the day I called and I had it three days later. Great customer service. It has not had any failures since.
I own 3 Kahrs one P45, A K40, and A new T9. I would bet my life and yours on any of those 3 bad boys. I like them better than glocks.
Yes I have had my share of glocks nothing wrong with them just like the Kahrs better. I mean 100 yds busting pieces of clay birds with a P45 and a witness to boot to the fact man what a pistol.
DaveShooter
I lOVE the idea of the ARmaLaser, but in person, it's a piece of junk.Quote:
Originally Posted by FallGuy
Adjusting the windage and elevation feels like adjusting the laser on a childs toy. The thing is flimsy and of poor quality. Won't hold a zero after removal or after a few dozen rounds fired.
Sold mine a week after buying it.
However, if a QUALITY company could make a similar model, it would be great and I would gladly pay double for it. The "touch on" sensor is really cool.
Until they can up the quality to something more solid than that of a plastic toy made in Taiwan that's sold at the Dollar Store, save your hard earned money.
First, let me say I have a TP9 with 1100-1200 rounds through it and not a single failure since the first round. It has fired everything I have given it and I carry it with Corbon DPX. It is a great gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrCelica
Would I do it again. Probably not. I have looked for after market products and although I have found what I needed, it has been more of pain than I would like. For instance, I called the number 1 shooting range and gun store in my area to see if they if had a Fobus holster for it and they didn't bother to look it up. They just said they didn't carry anything for a Kahr. I figured out the Fobus number holster I needed and it's the one that fits 1911's also. I imagine they had one at the store, but they didn't do enough Kahr business to know any better. Same thing on other holster companies and after markets. The bigger companies have a few holsters, but not a selection of styles and choices like for the Glock, XD, Smith and others. Even a the tiny Keltec gets more respect.
Maybe it will change, but when I look for another carry gun, it will be something more popular that has a greater range of choices and a price more in line with the other fine weapons.
Too bad to. It really is a fine weapon. :smt022
Purchased PM9 in December..followed manufacturers recommendation of
" breaking-in " with 200 rounds.........gun performed flawlessly. This gun replaces a P3AT ( Kel Tec ) for my carry weapon.......the Kel-Tec was very unreliabe. Another of my carry weapons is the Smith model 638 Airweight. This is a beautiful piece of equipment that will always go "BANG" when ths triger is pulled.
Picked up my first Kahr last year, a K9. Loved the trigger, but was too heavy for daily carry. 100% reliable. Traded for a CW9 last month. Again 100% reliable, and just added a PM9 last week and finished the 200 round breakin... no problems of any kind and very accurate! Always thought Kahr cost too much, but now I believe they are worth every penny and would buy another without hesitation!
I have the CW9 and it has been flawless since the first shot. I have put a variety of ammo through it ranging from lead handloads to Gold Dot 124gr. +P and have yet to have a failure of any type. It currently has a little over 450 rounds. After shooting mine, my dad went out to buy one and ended up with the PM9. He has put away his Glock 26 and SW scandium to carry the Kahr. Ask a variety of dealers and I think you will find that the Kahrs have a very solid reputation for reliability.
like ozark10, i 2 just got rid of my p3at ,thought i was going to keep this one a long time but ,i got tired of reliability issues ftf's, stovepipes etc, i went for the pm9, i havent even taken it to the range yet but i am already noticing the 1st round issue about,the failing to to go into battery, the only way mine chambers right with a full mag is if the slide is locked back and i ,and quick slide release it, if you manualy pull slide back to chamber it doesnt fully chamber, dont know if any body makes a exxcellent pocket sized semi?
If you read your manual you will see that Kahr tells you to use the slide release to chamber your first round. If you do it the way the manufacturer tells you too I would bet your problem goes away. The Kahr is very tight when new but will loosen up after the break-in period. My experience with them has been very good, my local Sportsmans Warehouse can't even keep the CW9 in stock.
Had the barrel replaced on my PM9 for penning (yet it worked fine)
New barrel and gun shoot fine at the range yesterday (36 rounds)
? Do any of you have both the pm9 and the all steel ones.
Is there a quality difference or not.
Owned both the K9 and the polymer versions. No difference in quality I could discern. Polymer gets carried more because it weighs less.Quote:
Originally Posted by skar
100% so far, 300+ rounds ona used PM9.
Cheers
Bobby
Just wanted to let everyone know that I decided that I would take the plunge and get a Kahr. I picked up a MK9 with night sights and love it. It only has 400 rds through it and hasn't jammed once. I'm not crazy about the trigger since I like single action triggers but I can live with a DAO trigger in a gun this small. Kahr's are expensive but I think you get what you pay for since my MK9 is so well finished on the inside. Now it's time to shop for a good IWB holster.
I have a K40 98 Elite. All steel, all good!
I've probably put close to 1200 rounds thru it. I carry it when I need something a bit smaller. The only thing that I had a problem with was the mag would randomly drop out of the gun while firing. This was um.. how shall we say... a very very bad thing for a defensive pistol. I called the guys at Kahr, they sent me a new mag release and spring, no charge, arrived in 3 days. Works like a charm. I haven't had a single problem since then.
I tend to prefer the all steel Kahrs over the polymers simply because .40 has a little bit of a 'snappy' recoil. Tried an all steel one with the wood grips, all I can say is I much prefer the Hogue grips on mine to the wood ones.
You'll enjoy it, they are great little guns. I've heard about a lot of little small stuff that is easily fixed. Just make sure you function test it to about 400-500 rounds before you depend on it for your life. That goes for just about any gun though.
Enjoy.
Zhur
I have just got a new CW .40 a few months back, first 30 rds was like a orgasm in my hand, then the slide started locking back EVERY round. I could get it to fire right, maybe 50% of the time if I held it hard enough to fatigue myself after 2 mags, and fought the recoil. Physically pushing the gun forward while it kicked. Sent to to kahr, they replaced basically everything except the frame. Shot maybe 200 rounds out of it and same problem started, applied a little extra oil and got the rest of my 50rds out no problem. I do carry it, but have a hard time saying I'd trust it with my life.
My feelings on Kahrs are mixed:
11 year old satin-nickel K40, never a failure of any type. All 165 and 180 grain FMJ, and 135, 155, 165, and 180 grain JHP.
I heard lots of horror stories about the early P-series, hardly ever heard about any problems with the K-series.
I've heard about much less trouble with the CW-series, which is the cheaper plastic line. Go figure.
2 week old CW40, no failures in 300 rounds of mixed 165 grain FJM and 155 JHP. Did wear a hole in the skin at the base of my thumb from some sharp plastic edges that are now gently rounded.
The plastic frame had a lot of plastic "fuzz" that I had to remove with a razor blade. Pretty shoddy workmanship I thought, but a nice, light, powerful companion to my K40.
My brother just bought a black stainless K40 at the same show I bought my CW40 at, and is having terrible problems with it. He'd fired my K40 the previous week, and liked it a lot.
His problems:
Feels like the slide is running on grinding compound, instead of on ball bearing like mine feels.
Many misfires. Trigger acts like it doesn't get cocked when the slide retracted.
Won't fire the last round in either of the two magazines, no matter how many rounds he starts with. The round gets chambered, but will not strike a blow to the primer.
I was embarrased for recommending Kahr. I'm not sure I'd do it again.
I know they'll make good on it, but where the heck is the quality control?
Update:
My brother's K40 is back from the factory, and is working perfectly. He just bought a CW9 last weekend, and it is also working perfectly, so after some initial misery with his K40, he has two good-working Kahrs, as I do.
I have had my MK9 for about four years several hundreded rounds and keeps on running. I carry every day, I would not do so if IDid"nt trust it.:smt023
I suggest that you try reading the manual FIRST before posting. You're doing it all wrong according to the manual if you're trying to slingshot the first round.Quote:
Originally Posted by ge0624me
Of the three Kahrs that I have owned, a PM-9, a P-45, and a K-9, the P-45 was the only one that ever had a failure. Once I finished the break-in period, and found out which ammo it liked, it never 'belched' again.
With Kahr, it's all about the break in. they say atleast 300-500 rds before you should consider it reliable. i have a CW9 and at first I was haveing some FTF but the more rds i get down rane with the better it is.
I just bought a slightly used CW40 and Im having problems with it ejecting live rounds... Has anyone else had this problem and what can I do to fix this. Thanks
Tyler
Don't worry about the live rounds. Try shooting it and I think you'll find it works fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carolinaxd45
I picked-up a new PM45 about two months ago, and my results haven't been spectacular.
At first, I would have at least one FTE or FTF per magazine. That said, Kahr's break-in period states that 200 rounds are necessary to ensure smooth operation, and it did happen less as I got higher in the round count. I'm at about 500 now, and it still happens on a rare occasion. I'm trying to determine if it's something with the choice of ammo, my grip, or the gun itself.
Also, after about 200 rounds, the PM45 started dropping the mag between the fourth and fifth round with EVERY magazine. I'd call it a fluke, but the same week, my buddy who also bought a PM45 started having the identical problem. He called it in; Kahr sent him a new mag catch with a harder push against the mag release spring. I sent mine back to the factory; they included the new mag catch, polished the feed ramp (which was already like glass from the factory, not sure why they felt the need to do it), and they added what appears to be a couple of small strips of black electrician's tape to the inside of the grip to create friction against the magazine. Needless to say, I'm a bit disappointed in the type of repair made, but since getting it back, it hasn't dropped any mags while shooting. It still gives me an occasional FTF or FTE.
Right now, I'm thinking about picking up a Walther PPS. If I like the PPS, I'll probably end-up selling the Kahr (with full disclosure); it just doesn't seem to like me that much.
After getting the bugs worked out and breaking it in Im really starting to like my cw40, it hasn't failed me yet and I would trust it for my carry..