Mostly, we've been shooting Ruger Vaquero's in .38/.357. We discovered the joys of Cowboy Action Shooting.
You should see her pump the shotgun! :smt033
Hey WM, you need to post a movie of your Cowboy Action stuff.
How did you fare with the storm?
I hope you were clear of it's path.
Ike went far enough North that he just caused us worry and shut down a lot of businesses a few days as we prepared for evacuation.
My office sits about three blocks from the Harbor in Rockport, at about 6' sea level. With tides expected to rise between 3 to 5 feet, I wasn't sure if we would be mopping up on Saturday, but thankfully we stayed dry.
Thanks for asking.
You should feed that cow..I's as flat as a board:anim_lol::draw:
I own both a .380cc and a Bersa Plus (HiCap) and love both of them. I have made the HiCap my "carry" gun and like the idea of having 30 available for duty-15 in the gun and 15 in the spare mag I carry. Am using a Galco Yaqui High Slide holster for both. The Plus is light and I don't even know I have it on at 4:30.
my days as a bersa owner were short lived. got a .380 and just had a heck of a time with it jamming. traded it in for a glock 26 and haven't really looked back... almost forgot about the bersa til i came to this forum.
I'm 50-50 -- or maybe 60-40 to the plus side -- regarding my Bersa satisfaction so far.
I own the Bersa .380 Concealed Carry and the Bersa Thunder UltraCompact 9mm and, in fact, took both to the range earlier today for some target rounds. It was my first use of the .380 since putative repair of its trigger disconnect spring, which had disengaged about once every 100 rounds previously.
Well, both pistols fed and ejected flawlessly through c. 300 rounds, and the 9mm UC is a true 'tack driver'. It's been a fine shooter, as pleasurable a gun to 'play' with as any I've ever had. However, the .380 AGAIN threw off its trigger spring after only about 50 rounds, and a second time after its easy, but disconcerting, repair. It will go back for warranty service one more time before I demand trade/refund from the very reputable local retailer from which I purchased it.
Even the .380 is a fine firearm, in terms of ease and accuracy, when it shoots. But, no way is it a reliable carry weapon, for example, and I really don't have much use for a pistol which isn't.
The 9UC, on the other had, has been flawless and a joy.
Had my Bersa Thunder .380 about 4 months now and put through seveal hundred rounds. Never had an issue. Then today, I took my wife to the range and she shot it for the first time. On her 4th shot, it jammed. Bullet was sitting at an angle and never made it to the chamber. It dislodged easily and she continued to fire. No more issues.
She probably limp-wristed the pistol.
Probably just cosmetic wear
Well, it looks like the Mrs. has decided to get a Thunder .380, especially since we have found them on sale for $249. I just hope we don't the spring problem as others have had,
I've used my Bersa 380 as my primary carry gun for at least half a year now (it used to be a XD9 but was getting hard to conceal at times). Every time I'm at the range, I always fire at least 100 rounds with it, then switch to my other pistols. The gun feeds and ejects properly, and is very convenient to conceal. However, it is starting to experience some maintenance issues. My sights have cracked (that's right) and fallen off. And the grip and the screws that hold it in (there are only two out of four left) are worn down. But other than that, the gun has still held together, and I still carry it all the time (although at times I will carry my favorite gun my XD9). Currently its got about 8000+ rounds put through it, and every round has fired and ejected flawlessly. Admitantly, a lot of the maintenance issues may be my fault. I have put the gun through hell on many occasions. Once I fell into a lake while carrying the gun. When I got back home, my curiosity got the best of me, and I decided to find out if the gun would work with all the water, mud, and crud from Tenn. lakes left in it. And like I mentioned earlier, it has yet to not function properly. I carry it every time I'm out biking, so it has to endure the weather and me falling off my bike. I strongly recommend this gun as a carry weapon, but try to take better care of it than I have.
I've run so many rounds through my BT380 that I've lost count, and I'm very happy with it. I also own a Taurus Model 85CH, and I'm very happy with that too. I don't think that either of these weapons were designed to be range guns. I believe they were designed to be self-defense weapons. As such, I don't think their designers envisioned an owner of either weapon hitting the range to fire a gazillion rounds through - maybe just 50-100 per month for proficiency and that off chance a person might actually get assailed. I know plenty of people who own both. We have all broke them in properly and kept them clean, and they have not failed us yet. (They are tools/machines, and any tool/machine could breakdown so I'm sure there could come a time when either my Bersa or Taurus might break-down no matter how much care I give them. No weapon is immune from this possibility).
If I was a hard-core shooting fanatic who had the time and money to send thousands of rounds down range at any given shooting session, I'd probably go with Glock, SIG, S&W, Para, or Kimber. But I don't. I'm a probation officer with a wife/four kids. My money and time is spread thin, so I've gone with Bersa and Taurus. They're right on the money for what I need and what they were designed to do - provide a self-defense that I can count on at an affordable price - and I'd I trust my life on either.
I have a 380 duo that has been nothing but reliable. Cost me all of $219 NIB.
If your wife was the first owner of the gun you can sent it to Colorado Gun works and have any worn or damaged parts fixed or replaced.
http://www.coloradogunworks.com/ is a certified warranty shop for Bersa and Firestorm firearms (Bersa does not and has never manufactured
the Firestorm 1911 models so Bersa does not cover them, but CGW might do warranty work for them as well.)
2631 West Vine Drive
Ft. Collins CO 80521
For WARRANTY SERVICE, please send Pistol directly to any of the following gunsmiths:
Reynerson's, 10044 Hooper Road, Baton Rouge, LA 70818
Colorado Gunworks, 2631 W. Vine Drive, Ft. Collins, CO 80521
Ahlman's, 9525 W. 23th Street, Morristown, MN 55052
Phone: 507-685-4243 or 507-685-4244
Danforth Gunsmithing, 7101 Jurupa Avenue #34, Riverside, CA 92504
John's Guns, Etc., 156 CR 305, Lott, TX 76656
T & A Gunsmithing, RR#1, BOX 1650, Route 314, Henryville, PA 18332
Store Locator: Click here to find a store near you.http://gander.distanthorizon.com/storelocator/
BERSA LIFETIME SERVICE CONTRACT
Upon the expiration of the one-year Warranty, and for as long as this BERSA firearm is owned by the original purchaser, BERSA S.A.
offers to service and repair any defects or malfunction in this BERSA firearm excluding the finish, grips, sights or magazine, without charge.
Requests for service should be submitted in writing together with proof of purchase and the firearm (insurance and shipment prepaid by the purchaser)
to an authorized service center identified on the enclosed list. Return shipment and insurance shall be paid by BERSA provided the service
is covered by this service contract.
This service contract is only extended to the original purchaser and shall be waived if the defect or malfunction was caused by neglect, abuse,
careless handling, unauthorized ammunition, ordinary wear and tear, unreasonable use or failure to provide reasonable and necessary maintenance
as set forth in the instruction manual.
Please complete and return the enclosed original purchaser registration card, found in you firearm's box, to assist us in providing this service to you.
If you require assistance in connection with this service contract, please contact:
Eagle Imports, Inc.
1750 Brielle Ave., Unit B-1
Wanamassa, NJ 07712
Freedom1911 has told you the correct skinny. I use CGW in Colo. for any repair to my Bersa's. Remember a blow back gun cannot be limp wristed. Some of the problems they had are easy fix by the smith at CGW. I have 4-5 hundred rounds through my TH 380 and it is as good or better than when new. They are a great gun for a great price. There are some nice wood grips for them from Marshalls grips.
Get a 12-15 inch piece of broom handle, tie some clothes rope to it in the center about 25-30 inches long and put a small weight on the end of the rope. Then using your hands facing down towards the floor, roll the rope onto the broom stick alternating one hand then the other until the rope is all the way rolled up and then reverse the action letting the rope un-roll. This exercise will strengthen the wrists which will help in the elimination of limp wristing a handgun.:watching:
Have not heard about that.
I have found this http://www.bersa-llama.com/ at several searches, but it seems to be a dead url.
Asking about this at www.bersatalk.com would probably get a definite answer.
MichaelT at the BT sight is in contact with Bersa all the time and if any one can give a yes or no answer to this it would be him.
Checked at the Bersa Talk forum and this is what they said about Bersa Buying Llama.
No, Bersa didn't buy Llama. If you google Llama, or check wikipedia, they'll give you a complete history of Llama, and Bersa is never mentioned, nor is Argentina.
Firestorm is an American brand name, and the owner contracted with Llama to make imitation 1911 pistols under the Firestorm brand name, to be imported into the U.S. They also contracted with Bersa to make .22lr, .380acp, 9mm, .40s&w, and .45acp pistols under the Firestorm brand name. The only relationship that Bersa has with Llama is that they did business with the same American importer, RSA Enterprises.
Still happy with my T9 HC Pro - 575 shots, 1 FTE and less than 10 failure to lock open after the last round in the mag that I all blame the ammo for.
My grouping is getting tighter too.
I would guess the wear you are seeing to be cosmetic.. The Bersas tend to hold up really well. There is always the exception but I know of a couple of ranges that use them on the rental line and have upwards of 40,000 rounds through them, and you know a range gun does not get the TLC that ours do. I have a UC45 with over 2200 flawless rounds, and a couple different models of 380, one is my wifes and it has 1500 through it and my CC model has only a couple hundred.. Very happy and will add more of them to the collection
We have 2 Bersa Thunders. With around 2 thousand rounds thru each without a problem, We are very happy with them. Both my wife and I use them for CCW.
I have a UC9 and a Firestorm 22 and both have been pretty much perfect. Literally no problems with the FS and one stovepipe FTE on the Thunder 9 on the very first magazine, limpwristed it...
a few thousand rounds through both now, and I've pulled them down and cleaned them several times each with no visible improper wear... the FS22 is exactly like the 380, all steel, pretty much no recoil, and the Thunder UC9 for me is better than my wife's Glock, heavier with less recoil... I much prefer a hammer gun with a flip safety... I can put one in the chamber, put the safety on and holster it.. with safety on, the trigger's disconnected, unlike a Glock .. and if I actually pull the UC9 for social work, I just flip down the safety with the thumb and pull DA for the first round.
Seriously, no problems, no disorder of any kind with the UC9 or the FS22 after thousands of rounds in each, and I expect when I go to .45 it will be another Bersa.
I'm also lefty, and not many guns have controls on the right side.. FNP makes a .45 that way, but I might have to stay with Bersa.. :-)
:smt023Have had my Bersa Thunder now for about 3 months and love the way it handles. I'm still a little slow in reloading but figure I'll get better with more practice. At the shooting range I am pleased with my target practice and feel that the Bersa is easy to aim and shoot. Just wish I could reload faster - it's still a bit stiff.