But speaking of Big Brother, would you pay money and beg permission from your masters to exercise what is supposed to be a "right," if your name and address would be published in the newspaper, and on a public internet database?
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But speaking of Big Brother, would you pay money and beg permission from your masters to exercise what is supposed to be a "right," if your name and address would be published in the newspaper, and on a public internet database?
Good deal............I ain't huggin' Maximo........I saw his picture....:smt082 :smt082 :smt082Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximo
Well, I'll do the hugging thing if you nice, fine men here promise not to grope anything. :smt082
I have been fingerprinted since 1967. Then I have been finger printed and background checked at least yearly sometimes bi-annually, this doesn't include the credit and finanical checks,or the random drug screening. I figure the only thing big brother doesn't know about me is when my last bowel movement was.
Getting a CCW is a great help when the elected officals want to keep thier offices because each CCW equates to at least 10 more voters that want to keep firearms and will vote against them if they support restrictive firearm laws.
I promise... :smt077 :smt1097Quote:
Originally Posted by SuckLead
+1 :smt1099Quote:
Originally Posted by tony pasley
The promise depends on if you have a good Colt to grope.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuckLead
She doesn't and I think she'd hurt you if you touched the Sig.:mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by tony pasley
I've never worried about it. One, my prints have been on file since I was 18 and got my pistol permit while living in the PRM (People's Republic of Massachusetts). Getting them done again to get my CCW was not a big deal. Two, I've got nothing to hide (not implying anyone here does). Let them track me, watch me, listen to my calls, read my emails. I've got more important things in my life right now to worry about than if "Big Brother" is watching.
Dern tootin'! :anim_lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Revolver
We called the factory today and they said it was currently with the Sig gunsmith... I felt very violated. :numbchuck:
No Colts how tragic very deprived, nothing to grope for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revolver
I'm coming onto this conversation a little late but wanted to put my two cents in. I figure big brothers already has a file full on me since I've served in two branches of the military and various other things so why not be legal and have the ability to protect myself and my family. I never carried in Iowa because I didn't have a CCW but in Montana I do, and thus, carry all the time I can legally carry.
I'm new here, but old in all other aspects. I agree with Tony Pasley---except that I have been printed and investigated every year since 1960---until I retired. Now, without printing, those who are concerned know where I am and everything else about me. What's to worry ? Ya gotta trust someone and it might as well be those who trusted you.
After some few years of blissful retirement, I started to read local papers-----WOW--all the shootings, gang violence, muggings, rapes,----you know the situation. Even our beach has, at times, been taken over by gang warfare. The local "law" appears to be castrated with respect to action. Then, am I responsible for the protection of me and my family ? Well ??
I have been taught to protect those for which I am responsible. How do I do that in today's environment ? Pepper spray? A stick? Kung Foo? Prayer? Negotiation? Hugs?
I understand the language of violence. I have seen evil. If protecting my loved ones, and you, when the situation is consuming, is not to be expected, why am I on this forum and why am I even discussing this subject.
I am physically prepared and mentally ready to what is necessary to protect me, my family, and you, when the situation arises.
Please explain to me why anyone would do less.
Dave
Never thought much about Big Brother having my prints for CCW due to the fact they already have my prints for D.O.D. and D.O.E. clearance. Dern now I feel like there watching me:mrgreen:.
Heh, my prints are on file for my security license anyway... But on the topic at hand...
"Well regulated" comes to mind pretty quickly, and that reminds me of a conversation myself and another had regarding whether or not it was "Constitutional" to require a license to carry or really even own a weapon.
What he said was, in short, yes. It is Constitutional. A "well regulated Militia" (that being us) is strictly defined as being "well regulated". While it would be unlawful and unconstitutional to require passing tests or anything like that, requiring that we receive training and then acquiring a license to prove we've received such training actually PROTECTS us, since now we can prove, in court, the "well regulated" portion. He said the Second Amendment wasn't to give everyone and their brother a gun, but rather to protect the rights to own guns by those who are trained to use them.
So give Big Brother your prints. If Big Brother then misbehaves with them, revolt and oust the offending politicians from office. Simple. Not easy, incredibly dangerous, but simple and in line with the ideas the country was founded upon. Social contract.
As it stands now though, SuckLead was/is right, it can often serve simply to help you. Being suspicious of the Gov't is fine, but no need to be paranoid unless they give you reason to be. ;)
-B
You, sir, I respect. As a "young buck," I reserve the right to admire and hope for no less a mindset than that one when I become more involved in careers and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by dourdave
-B
yeah me tooQuote:
Originally Posted by PenguinRunway