HK USP or Glock 17/19

Glocks rule and guess what? So does HK.

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Originally Posted by spacedoggy

Glocks rule and guess what? So does HK.

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Sounds good to me

Here we go...

C'mon guys. Anytime there is a question between "Gun A" vs a Glock, you'd think there was a holy war going on. There is always a Glock owner that gets excited :mrgreen: - ESPECIALLY on Glocktalk.

Nothing wrong with Glocks. But, I prefer, personally, many guns to a Glock. The P99 and HK's being among them.

I think the HK is made better. And, the trigger is a lot better - specially the SA trigger (U can carry a USP/USPc cocked and locked so U need not worry about the DA pull)

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Originally Posted by -gunut-

I disagree with most of that. It is much easier to come by holsters and accessories with Glock, though there are plenty for HK if you know where to look. The HK mags are more expensive, but that is just an initial investment. They are still in the ballpark of reasonable. I prefer HK's trigger to Glock. I don't keep my guns on DA. They are on SA with safety on, C&L. So that is not an issue. I don't like Glock's mushy trigger.

HK customer service use to suck in the past but they are very good now. Everyone that has used them on HK pro and other forums say good things about them. The part about Glock having fewer moving parts, thus less to go wrong is nice in theory. It seems Glock uses more lower quality parts that tend to break often. Just look at the Glocking section on GT. Personally I have not been impressed with all the breakages I have seen. I have found HK mags to be very reliable despite their feel. Glock's are very good as well.

The part about the frame makes me laugh. To me the HK's frame feels much better quality then Glock. I was also told it uses a better plastic (Don't know about that.) One thing I do know is that you don't see any HK's with the end of the frame warped up towards the slide, like on many Glocks. The HK in .45 is slimmer then the Glock in .45 (though HK is taller). I can't speak for the other calibers. To add to the quality, all HK's were designed for the calibers they shoot. They were not just a chop job like on other guns.

Another reason I choose HK is that it has a more tradition grip angle. I hate that damn hump on Glocks. There is no point to it. The HK line are also more accurate than Glock, yet just as reliable. This is why I choose HK over Glock

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I'm glad to hear that their customer service has improved. That's encouraging.

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Originally Posted by kenjihara

I'm glad to hear that their customer service has improved. That's encouraging.

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It is...though I hope I never have to use it! :watching:

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Originally Posted by -gunut-

It is...though I hope I never have to use it! :watching:

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I had to use the HK CS once. When I bought my P2000SK it didn't come with a extra backstrap, propably it got lost at the gun show. I called HK & the nice guy on the other end of the line told me he'd send one in my direction. 3 days later it was in my mailbox. :)

This is a great forum. On a topic that is as potentially fiery as this the disagreements were very gentlemanly. Good thing no one dissed a P99....

You really cant go wrong with a Glock 9mm. But if you can afford it I'd go with the HK.

You are either HK over Glock, or Ford over Chevy, or Pepsi over Coke. It is a constant battle, but every Glock owner I have met said they have a Glock because they could not afford an HK. It is the poor mans HK for lack of a better term. Not that you have to be rich to own one, but that you may be a little more frugal so you would settle for the cheaper weapon. I feel like you always get what you pay for.

I have shot many Glocks but I always go back to my HK and it was the duty weapon of choice for me. It to me has a better feel. The Compact versions are perfectly balanced. I can take my HK USP compact .40 and stand it up on the handle (pic to follow). Remember: "In a world of compromise, some don't."

As far as customer service goes, I had a friend buy an HK after shooting mine and after having it for a while wrote a nice email telling how much he appreciated the reliability and overall greatness of the gun. About a week after writing he received a package containing a H&K long sleeve T-shirt and a hat thanking him for the nice email. I have no personal story to tell you about H&K's customer service because in 9 years of owning mine I have never had to call them. In the past I shot more then the average person having to qualify twice a year as well as "fun" trigger time and training. I have dropped it, thrown it and slid it on the ground more times then I care to remember and it has never failed me. But that is just my experience with the HK. Take from it what you will.

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Originally Posted by falshman70

Good thing no one dissed a P99....

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No kiddin'.... I'd hate to be locked up in jail this weekend because I flipped out :mrgreen:

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