Glock, XD, or M&P

Don't own a Glock, but I've fired many of them. Not my cup of tea. Got my daughter one. She loves them. Go figure.
I love my M&P 9. Performs flawlessly. Just bought A XD9, actually it's an older model HS2000. Been to the range twice. It seems like a keeper too.
I worked in a gun shop for many years & Glocks have their problems too. Very few for the amount sold.

I was in the same place a while back and went with the M&P. Have about 700 rounds through it now and am very happy with it.

I am a ex glock owner, I like the XD much better

I think I do also!:mrgreen:

The XD...I just bought one last week..Ooopss !! I have another gun added to my collection..I just couldn't resist. I tried it side by side with my CZ 75 SP01 and it stood for the challenge..I love it. The only thing I have an issue with is loading that mag with the most stiff spring I 've ever seen, thanks God the gun comes with a little cadget loader, among other things.

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The XD...I just bought one last week..Ooopss !! I have another gun added to my collection..I just couldn't resist. I tried it side by side with my CZ 75 SP01 and it stood for the challenge..I love it. The only thing I have an issue with is loading that mag with the most stiff spring I 've ever seen, thanks God the gun comes with a little cadget loader, among other things.

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Do your fingers a favor and get yourself a Uplula Universal Pistol loader by Butler Creek. Best mag. loader ever invented! Here is where I got mine;


http://eguns.com/sPearCat/1-4.woa/1/...jJ5M&g=BC+Mags

hey TxPhantom, thanks for the tip..i will consider that.

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Originally Posted by jimmy

hey TxPhantom, thanks for the tip..i will consider that.

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Believe me, you won't regret it. When we go to the range everyone that doesn't already have one wants to borrow ours and wants to know where to buy one:smt067

What is the big difference between that and the regular loaders that help with that

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Originally Posted by Brevard

What is the big difference between that and the regular loaders that help with that

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The UpLula is faster and easier to use than most others.

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Originally Posted by kenjihara

The safety is automatically engaged on a Glock when you holster it, too, as logn as you don't leave your finger on the trigger when you do it... which also would mean that the web of your hand was still on the grip. Right? What I'm saying is, if you train right and do right, they're functionally the same.

I can't help but feel like the XD craze is partly everyone getting on something new, partly the (admittedly well-executed) propaganda coming from Springfield Armory, and partly elitists having to have something different / 'better' than the masses.

Grip angles from the Glock to the XD to my 1911? I don't notice the difference. They all point naturally in my hand. The low bore axis of the Glock is very nice, but I could have that with a Makarov (also an extremely nice-pointing and shooting pistol, and cheap to boot!).

The reasons to buy a Glock are:
1. They are tested to death and they always go bang.
2. They are prolific; you can get any kind of holster / accessories you can imagine, and with all the competition for the market Glock stuff is semi-reasonably priced. You will always be able to get parts / work done on a Glock.
3. Again, the larger market means plentiful magazines in the right capacities for (sorta') reasonable prices.
4. Having probably the same pistol as the local constabulary makes you seem less of a 'hitman / gun- nut' in a legal situation. This is a negligible reason (until you get to court, when any help will be welcome in the face of insane litigation).
5. Glock pistols have a G.E.D.-simple manual of arms. Carry with a round in the pipe, draw weapon and identify / index threat and pull trigger, repeat until threat is neutralized. K.I.S.S. rule in full effect. This is probably the best reason to buy a Glock.

If you feel that Glock triggers are no good, you need to invest in about 300 rounds of ammo and maybe some training. Personally, I have no trouble making accurate hits with my Glocks off-hand out to 20 yards and sometimes further (if you shoot someone at this distance or further, you may have difficulty justifying them as a threat in court).

If I could only own one pistol (perish the thought!!) I would probably keep either my Glock 19 or Glock 23, whichever one I was assured would be easiest to get / manufacture ammo for (leaning towards the G23 because of the bigger holes). They aren't my prettiest guns, but they are an excellent combination of shootability, firepower, and concealability, and of course reliability.

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Quoted for truth.

I love my G.21

So this is an old thread, but just thought I'd give my 2 cents. I am quite new to the handgun scene, been around guns and hunting my whole life, but never actually owned a handgun. I LOVE the XD design! When I first decided that I wanted a . 40 cal, I asked gun shop counter opinions, became informed, and found that, as most said, pick the gun that works for you. So I went to the range and rented miost all the polymer guns in the .40 caliber, and found that between the glock and xd, that I really liked the way the xd fit in my hand, shot as straight as can be, and just looked prettier than the glock, not to mention that I found it hard to get over the goofy handle angle of the glock. It seems so far that there are quite a few more votes for springfield, but in my opinion, it would be VERY interesting to see the tally if glock and xd were released around the same time. I know quite a few diehard glock fans, and it seems as though part of their favor toward glock is derived from the fact that they became so used to the product earlier on. But I see more new gun purchasers, as I did, leaning toward the XD.

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Originally Posted by YFZsandrider

So this is an old thread, but just thought I'd give my 2 cents. I am quite new to the handgun scene, been around guns and hunting my whole life, but never actually owned a handgun. I LOVE the XD design! When I first decided that I wanted a . 40 cal, I asked gun shop counter opinions, became informed, and found that, as most said, pick the gun that works for you. So I went to the range and rented miost all the polymer guns in the .40 caliber, and found that between the glock and xd, that I really liked the way the xd fit in my hand, shot as straight as can be, and just looked prettier than the glock, not to mention that I found it hard to get over the goofy handle angle of the glock. It seems so far that there are quite a few more votes for springfield, but in my opinion, it would be VERY interesting to see the tally if glock and xd were released around the same time. I know quite a few diehard glock fans, and it seems as though part of their favor toward glock is derived from the fact that they became so used to the product earlier on. But I see more new gun purchasers, as I did, leaning toward the XD.

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The XD, especially the new "M" model, is quite a nice pistol. It would be my 2nd choice even though it sells for about $100.00 more than the MP. That said, the S & W, MP's have only been around since 2006 and in that short time they have become very popular with old time shooters and those new to pistol shooting. They are holding their own in this poll and in gun sales competing with older pistols with a huge head start in fan base. In a few more years, as more people get the word that the MP is reliable, accurate and close to ergonomically perfect, the MPs will catch up in popularity. I have three MPs and love them all!
Whatever you do, don't rely on "gun counter" opinions about anything. Opinions here and in other gun forums are much more reliable because of sheer volume and you can balance them against each other form your own, somewhat educated opinion.

Elitist, thats too funny. I pick my XD up on friday. I have never owned a handgun so I dont have a view one way or the other. I picked up both and found the XD to feel much nicer in the grip. I also thought the look of the XD was more strait-lined and overall better looking. I know that has nothing to do with the way a gun fires or handles but for me that was just another selling point. The double safety and the one in the chamber marker was another plus. I have talked with a bunch of shop guys and people online to make my choice, watched a bunch of videos too. The glock folks are really funny as they talk down about the XD but have VERY little substance to back it up. They go on and on about how its a clone or just copying the glock. To me it sounds like they are hating on a new more superiorly designed firearm and couldn't look bad to their buddy's buying something other than a glock. Def not saying that the glock is a POS or anything but come on. If all you have is its being copied and it fires underwater.... So glad I chose the XD for all reasons I stated and many more to come I'm sure.

I am probably one of the few that has actually got to shoot the three several times. The feel of the MP is outstanding. But with all the MP's I shot I have had problems. 2 rentals one not. My cousin bought a compact .45 XD. I liked it. Shoot good felt pretty good. I didnt like the grip safety. Felt funny in my hand. I know people say I dont notice it, I cant feel it. Well I did. Shot my cousins G23 and G27. Liked them both. Felt better in my hands than the XD. Heck, I shot it better than I have anything else. What is crazy is I was a big Ruger fan, I can shoot one of those better than most people can shoot their main cary gun.

Well to make a long story short I bought a G30sf. I love the feel of glocks. I like the the looks of the better (except for the newer ones). Not to mention the Glocks were cheaper than the XD and the MP. Now yes eventually I may break down and get an XD and a MP. But I am leaning towards more glocks. I have my G30sf for concealed carry if I can ever find a holster I like (really wanting a thumb break polymer hoslster like Fobus but I cant find one for that model). May break down a get a 9mm...not to carry but to shoot for fun.

Personally, I think Glocks are overall better. Better feel, better looks, better quality, better track record. But those are my opinions. Now the real deal breaker was the $50 and $100 cheaper price tag on the glock than the xd and mp. That helped me get my glock light to put on my G30.

Good assessment.. I was all for an XD, but in my area, they're getting real proud of XD's, which makes them a lot less competitive to the other brands in poly service guns.. I think it's the perception of how nice a deal they were not so long ago before they got so famous, or even back when HSA imported them as HS 2000's and they were $300ish.. Now pushing $600ish for the same doggone gun except for finish upgrades maybe, and I can't say that I'd blame that just on the gun-control scares going on lately.

The G23 and G27 both look like a couple I'd like to check out as well. :)

The only thing I didnt like about the G23 (not sure which generation my cousin has) there was a notch cut out at the bottom of the grip where your pinky goes and the mag slides in. Everytime I shot it it was almost cutting my finger. The one I checked out at the gun shop last time I went didnt have it. But it was my only down fall. I would have gotten the G27 but I liked having the option of running a light or laser under the barrel.

Xd only because of the glock not feeling comfortable in my hand

kinda off the subject....but why can't glock just call them what they are??? It gets old hearing people call it a g17, g23, g27, and on and on. When you're talking about an XD and say "XD9 sub compact", or "XD40 compact" I know exactly what gun it is, without having to memorize the gun chart.

....yea, yea I know about the design numbers thing. I'm just saying, if every gun manufacturer played this game, we'd all spend half our time memorizing model numbers.

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kinda off the subject....but why can't glock just call them what they are??? It gets old hearing people call it a g17, g23, g27, and on and on. When you're talking about an XD and say "XD9 sub compact", or "XD40 compact" I know exactly what gun it is, without having to memorize the gun chart.

....yea, yea I know about the design numbers thing. I'm just saying, if every gun manufacturer played this game, we'd all spend half our time memorizing model numbers.

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Yeah, I agree. I've often thought the same thing. I'd have to have a Glock catalog to identify which Glock size and caliber to know which one they are referring to. But, all that said, I really don't care that much, I'd rather have a MP (1st choice), a XD (M) or a Walther.

I have to vote for the XD It fit my hand the best and I shot with it the best! that's what it's about right! just as reliable as the other two!

I wonder how long XD's & M&P's have to be around before the Glockaholics believe they have proven themselves. If they have to be around as long as Glock's, I quess they will never prove themselves.
XD's & M&P's have sold enough guns to have proven whatever they have to prove. At least to me they have.
We're talking about 3 of the finest. Pick the one you shoot best.

You can never go wrong with a Glock

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Originally Posted by 2rott

I wonder how long XD's & M&P's have to be around before the Glockaholics believe they have proven themselves. If they have to be around as long as Glock's, I quess they will never prove themselves.
XD's & M&P's have sold enough guns to have proven whatever they have to prove. At least to me they have.
We're talking about 3 of the finest. Pick the one you shoot best.

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Funny, one of the local shops I visit is very pro-glock. While in there browsing, since the election, I've seen a dozen new shooters come in and say "I want to get a handgun." This almost always starts with the sales guy showing them a Glock..... but if you look around the display cases, they're literally full of Glocks, but the Springfields are pretty thin.

Now I know, I know... that particular shop could have a great relationship with glock, and be on a back-order list with Springfield. But go to a few shops, you'll see the trend.

p.s.- I shot a M&P 40 a couple weeks ago, and I need one of them!!

You're assuming the glocks are there because people don't want them. I'm assuming there there because the owner knows he can sell them easily.