Range report on PF 9
I went to the range to try out some of my .45 ACP reloads in my Taurus 1911. I ran into this thing on the way. I took a photo of it with a S&W 442 for comparison. Overall, they are very similar in size except the PF 9 is much flatter.
Calibers: 9mm Luger (9x19mm)
Weight unloaded (no magazine): 12.7 oz.
Loaded magazine: 2.8 oz.
Barrel Length: 3.1"
Capacity: 7 + 1 rounds
This little gun shoots really well (at least at 7 yards). It's very, very flat - only .88" thick. It is double-action only and has a nice light, very smooth trigger pull. The sights are dead on at that range and are quite nice for a pocket pistol. They're the 3 dot syle with enough daylight around the front sight to make it easy to get on target, even with my old eyes.
It's a pretty good handful to shoot. It's not a range gun, but fed some good ammo it should be a nice little CCW. Recoil is sharp, but manageable, even shooting fast 5 shot strings. I found out on the first magazine that it is sensitive to limp wristing. I had 3 failures to feed in the first magazine. After that I made sure I had a good firm grip and it fired the next 45 rounds without a hitch. I was using WWB from Wally World. Here's some photos of the targets:
First 5 rounds at 7 yards:
25 rounds at 7 yards:
20 rounds at 7 yards:
Thats pretty good shooting :)
Damn good for a pocket gun!
Originally Posted by Shipwreck
Nice photos Rman!
Looks good to me all the way around there Rman.
Been seriously considering this one. Any major problems beside limp wrsting it? I've read of many problems with 'em.
I've got one and mine shoots great. Kel-Tec had some major issues with this gun at first, but redesigned the barrel and feed ramp and the problems were pretty much solved. The serial # where they started using the new barrels is around #ROGxx, according to the folks over at KTOG.
I sent my slide and three magazines in to Fuselier Plating http://www.gunsmith.fuselier.com/ eight days ago and got them back today with a satin nickel finish...
Now that's a sharp little pocket pistol you got there Jam. How does it shoot? Did you find the same thing as Rman about the limp wrist? I might have to have one if they got the bugs worked out. Good luck with yours.
In 200 rds I haven't had any malfunctions, but a friend of mine who doesn't shoot much tried it and had a FTE that I believe was caused by limp wristing. When I suggested he tighten his grip a little he had no more malfunctions.
That was a nice write up. I might start to consider one my self for off duty use.
How do you fix limp wristing? Does tighting your grip fix it? I saw one at my last gun show but they wanted in the high 3's for it. I'll wait until I see more of them out there. Great rightup.
I was wondering how it felt in your hands since it looks like you have good sized hands. My hands are pretty big since I'm(6'7"220#), I've recently been contemplating purchasing one for carry since they are so small. I would like to get it in a 9mm. Any feedback other than what has already been listed would be greatly appreciated.
Have been try'en to keep track of this little mouse gun,, Glad to see some positive reports on it,, I don't normally advise or carry any thing smaller then a 9mm, but at present, working where I do even my Kahr Pm9 is just a tad to big, this is looking like a great zipper gun, may just have to go back and modify a couple of pants pockets again
The PM9 is shorter than the PF-9 in height and length, but the PF-9 is a little bit thinner and lighter. For a pocket gun, the Kahr PM9 may be a bit more concealable. The ultimate in concealability would be the Kel-Tec P3AT in .380 ACP.
Originally Posted by Dave James
Seems like a good toss up, what I'm looking for would be thinner and lighter, as it will have to ride just off the kangaroo pouch , or in the shirt tail holster,either way looking good. and if I have to lose it better than my Kahr or secamp
You've got a point there. I could have bought three PF-9's for what I have invested in my PM9.
CDNN Sports has them for around $230. Find the web site, call the 800 number...they no longer list guns online.
They are very good to deal with, as is Keltec.
After seeing those targets, I will be getting one later this month...maybe two.
. I have 2 pf-9's. It gives me the option of back-up or significant other to carry. No problems to date. 2,000+ rounds through one & appx. 1,000 through second one. They do have a stiff recoil but not severe. This is a light weapon, so expect some reI coil. There is a trigger pad available & the Northwood trigger is a worthwhile mod. I use a two handed grip & usually shoot 100-200 rounds at a time. You can expect 5-6" groups at 30 yds if you are a good shot.This is a small gun & MUST be kept clean to function well. I cannot remember the last problem I had. Technique is important. Ccleaning your weapon is important. Shooting your weapon is important. I like 115gr or 224gr ammo. I use: Blazer brass, Red box Federal, Sellier, Speer, Lawman, Belloit, Federal maroon & champion. My defence loads are Golden Saber, Hornady HP, Critical Defence, Cor-Bon. This is a small weapon & not much room for crud. You MUST clean it every time you shoot it. This isn't a show gun but a good defence weapon. The trigger pad mod & Northwood trigger are good mods.