I haven't been in combat, and have never implied that I have. But I have talked rather extensively to literally dozens of very recent veterans of the fights in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Since I'll be in the The 'Stan in the spring, I naturally am very interested in what they say. I base my opinions largely on what they are telling me, which seems to have little in common with the conventional wisdom I read on the internet or in gun magazines.
Maybe my current opinions will change once I get in-country, but as it stands now, I just don't believe that soldiers are as concerned and obsessed with .45s (or 6.8mm rifles, or whatever) as gun enthusiasts would like to believe.
Scooter - relax. I reread this thread again - and while everyone can have their own opinion, I don't see anything here to get worked up about. Agree to disagree, if you must.
Once again, I wasn't seeking to offend anyone, I was just relating my observations of what dozens of recent vets have said to me. I'm sure everyone would agree that battlefields are chaotic; I thought that was just stating the obvious. Further, I am sure everyone is aware that a chaotic environment increases the chances of missing when firing. If you disagree with these points, please explain why, rather than just attacking me personally, which accomplishes nothing.
I find I'm a pretty good listener, in or out of the Army. I did manage to make it through infantry school and airborne schools, plus being honor grad at most of the subsequent training I've attended. I have never fired less than expert on weapons qual, so I think I can put into practice what I hear.
I'd certainly be grateful to read about your own combat experiences, if you care to post them, since I am always eager to learn something that might save my life next year. That's why I try to talk to as many vets as possible. And again, thanks for your service.
Mike, I read your posts and wanted you to know that I don't find anything offensive - not in the least. I too have wondered about statements suggesting that those who serve in the armed forces are all clamoring for the "good ole" 45 acp. Additionally, as you indicated, the situations that might require a pistol seem kind of limited. For myself, I would not be pulling a side arm unless I was out of ammunition for my rifle.
I remember Benny Hill. But I refuse to admit to being old. :mrgreen:
Going back and reading my own posts I guess it does sound more like I was trying to critisize rather than hear, I just get a little tweaked when youngsters(IE you) post posts with what often "APPEARS" to me to be an attitude of "I know more than you so you should shut up and listen",and frankly thats what a lot of yours have looked like "to me". Reminds me of a lot of 2nd looies that didnt listen to the SGTS....Now Im not calling anyone stupid but I think you are ignorant(as we all are) about a lot of things yet you wont seem to admit it sometimes and grrrrrrrrr............Ill just say its probably good My kids are grown and gone now too:numbchuck: . I have no patience left.
Lousy apology too huh?:mrgreen:
And as far as my experiences in combat go even my own kids have never heard a word about it so it wont be getting "aired" here either.No snub just the way it is.
What we really need is a 12.7 x 99 high capacity titanium full auto pistol.:goofy: :goofy: :goofy: :goofy: :smt111