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I'm with Mike.
I'll go through a 2,000+ rounds with my XD-9 (about 200 per range trip) without cleaning. It may sit in my safe for a couple of weeks between range trips. Dirty, skanky and slutty. Without any cleaning, it still fires. And it continues to fire as long as I feed it some ammo.
A different age and different values I guess, There are some things worth doing whether they are "needed or not". Now I mean ABSOLUTELY NO INSULT,but you will probably take it that way anyway, I only hope that neither I or anyone I know never has to depend on the "reliability" of anyone elses filthy but "totally reliable" firearm to save their life.And it has nothing to do with being "ANAL" about cleaning,at least not any more than being "ANAL" about NOT cleaning your tools when done using them.
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Originally Posted by scooter
Seems Military will install ANAL in most cases,but not all--You are taught to keep your weapon and you privates clean and out of places they don't belong :mrgreen: (most certain meant in fun)
RJ
No offense taken at all. I don't see any mudslinging going on. It's been a very worthwhile conversation so far. :smt1099Quote:
Originally Posted by scooter
I subscribe to the thought of test firing a pistol after reassembly before trusting your life to it. Just like starting a car after putting new spark plugs in. I want to know that I put it all back together properly before going to bed so I know it will start in the morning. I don't want to wake up and find out my car won't start when I have to go to work. We had this exact same philosophy when I was active duty USAF during Reagan's time. We took the nuclear cruise missiles apart every 24 months, inspected them for corrosion, put them back together again. Then we ran some intensive diagnostic tests on the guidance and arming electronics... before we put them back in service. With that thinking, I'm more comfortable carrying a pistol I've fired since the last time I took it apart. Granted a semi-auto pistol is far simpler than an inertially guided nuclear cruise missile, the principle is the same.
I wouldnt really have any problems with the scenario you just laid out,test firing once or twice after cleaning is not gonna deposit the crud inside your firearm like 3500 rds between cleanings like has been prev. mentioned tho........
I can see the few rounds deal, but hundreds that's just to far out there for me. I would hate to be laying in the gutter bleeding to death, and wondering why that trigger froze up on me, when all I needed was a drop of oil.
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Originally Posted by Baldy
I see the difference lies in how many rounds fired before we consider the gun likely to jam due to a lack of cleaning. For some, one round and the gun needs cleaning. For others, several thousand. We all have our own comfort level.
I clean them. Just the way I was taught. First by my dad then by the Marines.
:smt163 Do you think it couldn't happen Ship? Is that why I am Weird. Odds are it never will, but it could happen to some I care a lot about. I would sure hate that.:smt1099 :smt1099 :smt1099
I think U misunderstand... That isn't "weird," dude. It's WRRD as in "WORD" - It means I am agreeing with U... WORD :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldy
Hell, here and I thought the gansta' Maser was gone.......LOL!!!!!!!
Word up dawg.....
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Originally Posted by jwkimber45
WORD!
Is Maser the kid from Ca. gone? What happened to him?
Don't pay me no mind Ship as they say ; NO fool like an old fool.
I'm still not sure why people are assuming a gun that has fired a few thousand rounds is doomed to malfunction at any moment. My guns -- two Glock 9mms, probably 15,000 rounds fired so far, including some in formal training -- have empirically shown that they are completely reliable at high round counts. It's not as if I wait until they start malfunctioning to clean them. They just haven't malfunctioned, so I'm content and comfortable with the six-month cleaning schedule.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldy
Chuck Taylor has mentioned he has a Glock 17 that has gone 20,000 round between cleanings, and it's still going strong at over 175,000 rounds. Even the ever-cautious Massad Ayoob has stated flatly that he'll sometimes let his Glock 22 go several thousand rounds without a cleaning.
I never assumed anything I just stated that I WONT take that chance,If you're comfortable with that scenario its ok by me.I for one wont intentionally push Mr Murphy.:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Barham at Galco