Beretta or Glock?

Hi there from Italy.

I've had and carried for 15 years a 92 Beretta, shooting a lot (more than 20.000 round / year).
The tecnical life for a 92 model is about 3.500 rounds (....just a few...!).
Glock is now my favourite gun (19C model) and I had it since 2000 year. I now own the 5th.
I've used it at the same rithm, changing just the firing pin spring and the disconnector spring. The first one weacks in 1 year of carryng in condition 1, the second breacks in 15.000 rounds.
No other problems with glock: I fired a round also in a swimming pool, 1 meter depht :-)

Regards

so what your saying is glock is superior to the beretta? correct?

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Originally Posted by TheLAGuy

So do you like a Beretta over a Glock is the real question?

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I prefer Beretta over Glock for self protection and range use. I've owned a 92G since 1993, shoots like new and I'm very accurate with it and it goes bang everytime. In are family we own: 92G, 92FS, 96FS, PX4 Storm Compact and Subcompact and a Beretta Inox 32cal. All are accurate, dependable firearms. If you shoot out a Beretta 92 in your lifetime let me know, I'd like to hear about it.

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Originally Posted by denner

I prefer Beretta over Glock for self protection and range use.

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And why is that? Just because you're used to it and that's the gun you own, or its features? Why would you pick a Beretta over a Glock?

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Originally Posted by TheLAGuy

And why is that? Just because you're used to it and that's the gun you own, or its features? Why would you pick a Beretta over a Glock?

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Subjective opinion: The safety features, rotating decocker, DA/SA, exposed hammer, would probably be my main preference coupled w/ the single action trigger pull which I prefer over the Glock trigger. If you ever drop a glock condition 1 from your waistband do not attempt to catch it on the way down, a Beretta I would and have but not recommended. I just like knowing if I carry condition (1) I would have a much harder time having a negligent discharge as compared to a glock especially the way I carry @ 11:00 o'clock in a soft holster. Not saying you cannot CCW carry a Glock safely in condition (1), but Beretta's design in the DA/SA, rotating decocker, in my opinion is much more forgiving, but to each their own.

So you think the Beretta is a more safe gun is what your saying? Do you carry your Beretta ready to roll? Thanks again for what you have to offer, I'm in the market right now and I've been leaning towards the Glock but this is making me question where I'm heading towards.

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Originally Posted by TheLAGuy

So you think the Beretta is a more safe gun is what your saying? Do you carry your Beretta ready to roll? Thanks again for what you have to offer, I'm in the market right now and I've been leaning towards the Glock but this is making me question where I'm heading towards.

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That's exactly what I'm saying, my Beretta's, or at least 1 is always ready to roll and I carry one everyday in which I trust my life with, but, any firearm is only as safe as it's owner. Personally, I prefer the "G" models, no safety just a decocker and rely on the first DA pull as a safety measure, my brother prefers the safety feature, some prefer glock, but then again to each their own. Whatever pistol you choose you need to train and become proficient with it and I'd advise to stick with one mode of operation, DA/SA or striker fired, safety or no safety etc.....

I would not trade my Beretta M9, my Beretta 84BB nor even my Beretta Model 1934 for a boxcar-load of Glocks. Berettas are quality firearms. Glocks have never interested me in the least.

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Originally Posted by CPT.ZERO

Hi there from Italy.

No other problems with glock: I fired a round also in a swimming pool, 1 meter depht :-)

Regards

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Next time I go to an under-water range I'll see about renting a Glock. I have been told that they also make good boat anchors. :roll:

So why does the military and law enforcement all carry Glocks? Kinda curious for that one. I'm still undecided guys, I'm going back to the range this weekend and try a few options. Possibly even a S&W 9mm... Any advice is greatly appreciated. :)

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Originally Posted by TheLAGuy

So why does the military and law enforcement all carry Glocks? Kinda curious for that one. I'm still undecided guys, I'm going back to the range this weekend and try a few options. Possibly even a S&W 9mm... Any advice is greatly appreciated. :)

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I have to admit I have never owned a full size Beretta. I now have a Beretta Nano that I am VERY impressed with. It will be my CCW pistol of choice when I need a smaller pistol. I own Glocks also, but cannot do a comparison, because I've only fired a Beretaa 92 a time or two.

You have gotten some great advice already. You're going to have to try to find a range and rent both guns and decide for yourself.

I'm not sure if any US military use Glocks, but they are used by MANY U.S. Law enforcement agencies. And even though I'm a fan of Glock, here's why there are more Glocks in use by police: $$$$$$$$$$. And if you get a chance read the book on Glock. Glock was very smart in their marketing. Their pistols were introduced after the famous FBI shootout in Forida where agents were outgunned while using their revolvers. Glock has marketed heavily to LE agencies and have given DEEP discounts and buy back deals for old Glocks.

I'm not saying that Glocks will not keep you safe or are bad weapons, I'm just saying that Glock as a company has been smart in the marketing department. Here's just one example: When Smith & Wesson and an ammo manufacturer designed the .40 cal. round, Glock beat them to the market with a production pistol chambered in .40 caliber. The then CEO of S&W told the author of the Glock book that "We just got our ass kicked."

My last piece of advice: Shoot as many guns as you can. Pick one that 'feels' right to YOU. And one that YOU can shoot the best. I have NO reservations about carrying my Glock with a loaded chamber--to me it makes no sense not to. Also, the Beretta, Springfield XD's, and S&W M&P's are all fine firearms.

My last, last piece of advice: Don't take advice from a bunch of guys on the internet!!! Take care, be safe, and good luck. Let us know what you get...

"... the military ... all carry Glocks?" Really? I could have sworn those M9s said "Beretta" on them.

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Originally Posted by DoyleH

I have to admit I have never owned a full size Beretta. I now have a Beretta Nano that I am VERY impressed with. It will be my CCW pistol of choice when I need a smaller pistol. I own Glocks also, but cannot do a comparison, because I've only fired a Beretaa 92 a time or two.

You have gotten some great advice already. You're going to have to try to find a range and rent both guns and decide for yourself.

I'm not sure if any US military use Glocks, but they are used by MANY U.S. Law enforcement agencies. And even though I'm a fan of Glock, here's why there are more Glocks in use by police: $$$$$$$$$$. And if you get a chance read the book on Glock. Glock was very smart in their marketing. Their pistols were introduced after the famous FBI shootout in Forida where agents were outgunned while using their revolvers. Glock has marketed heavily to LE agencies and have given DEEP discounts and buy back deals for old Glocks.

I'm not saying that Glocks will not keep you safe or are bad weapons, I'm just saying that Glock as a company has been smart in the marketing department. Here's just one example: When Smith & Wesson and an ammo manufacturer designed the .40 cal. round, Glock beat them to the market with a production pistol chambered in .40 caliber. The then CEO of S&W told the author of the Glock book that "We just got our ass kicked."

My last piece of advice: Shoot as many guns as you can. Pick one that 'feels' right to YOU. And one that YOU can shoot the best. I have NO reservations about carrying my Glock with a loaded chamber--to me it makes no sense not to. Also, the Beretta, Springfield XD's, and S&W M&P's are all fine firearms.

My last, last piece of advice: Don't take advice from a bunch of guys on the internet!!! Take care, be safe, and good luck. Let us know what you get...

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Thanks!!!! Thing is, Beretta's are cheaper than Glocks in my area. I'm going to the range this weekend and will try out a Beretta and the S&W. Sig's seem nice but that seems to be another few hundred bucks that any of the arms I was speaking of.

The sheriff's dept. by me just purchased 631 Glocks for their dept................reason being....$231 a piece........in talking to a few...not their first weapon of choice, and I see a lot of sheriff's and LE carrying HK's and Sigs.

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Originally Posted by TheLAGuy

So why does the military and law enforcement all carry Glocks? Kinda curious for that one. I'm still undecided guys, I'm going back to the range this weekend and try a few options. Possibly even a S&W 9mm... Any advice is greatly appreciated. :)

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A glock to the public are about $580 around here. They got a "bro deal".

Beretta!

Nuff said......

I have a beretta 92 fs and a glock 26. Love them both and don't want to sell either. :)

A plastic gun will always take a second seat to an all-metal gun.

i have the two !
and love to shoot the two !!:smt083,
just the mood you feel in,
just feel Glock when you shoot Glock
en enjoy your Beretta when you shoot Beretta

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Originally Posted by paratrooper

A plastic gun will always take a second seat to an all-metal gun.

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Not always. Polymer definitely has its advantages that an all metal gun of similar size just can't beat.

I couldn't get into the Glock I owned and really do like my Beretta.

Guys,

I've had both, and consumpted many of their barrels: now listen me:
92 has a tecnical life of 3.500 rounds; glock has 150.000 rounds-life; beretta (an excellent side gun) it's complicate to master, differently from glock; ... with one of my glock I fired under water, in a swimming pool: can you do it with a beretta?:rolleyes: do not attempt to do it, please ...
...oh I was forgetting: I'm from Italy :mrgreen:

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Originally Posted by Hurryin' Hoosier

Next time I go to an under-water range I'll see about renting a Glock. I have been told that they also make good boat anchors. :roll:

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Hi HH...

no, the matter is not into the evenience in wich you could need to shoot underwater: it's in the mechanical complex, and materials: if you do it with a beretta, you'll use the other hand to say hello to friends:mrgreen:

I love beretta, too, and I had 3 92; I'm a military, I know what I say. To be safe, military berettas are retired every 3.500 rounds. Glock has a never anding lifetime, none has seen structural damages if not due to wrong charges, or shoots with occluded barrel.
The only things you can breack are the firing pin spring, and the disconnector spring. That's all.

To be complete, I'll tell you that a beretta who 'has sooted' breacks the right safety lever, the rolling block (..may be I'm wrong with therms, excuse me , I'm a forenger) and may present damages on the slides: the FS model has been developed appositly, due to the fact that in F model some shooter received on the face the back part of the slide, once crashed :anim_lol:

Stay Well, and shoot straight (also under water, if you need it, but in that case use a glock):rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by TheLAGuy

so what your saying is glock is superior to the beretta? correct?

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Hi LAGay

the question it's difficult to answer.

Let's say this:

my side gun should fit my hand, do not exceed in measures to be carried, have a good number of rounds, and BE AFFORDABLE.
Now I'll try to start from the end: AFFORDABLE is a gun wich demonstrates it. Glock does it over beretta performances. Read, too, my comments about tecnical life.... but affordability is a difficult subject, if talking of selfe defence: while beretta is done for professional and continuous excercise, glock is not: every round is fired in the same trigger 'action', and you do not have something that has demonstrate to be very dangerous for operators, in stress conditions: the SAFETY.
Many poicemans, in italy where thet carry it with a non chambered round, are found dead, with many unfired cartridges around, and the gun SAFE, AND CHAMBERED, near to the body. What does it tells you? ... we are talking of a gunfight, not a range sunday morning.

Than, a glock 19, for example, is shorter that a beretta of about 1 inch, and it has 17+1 rounds, in 9mm.
There is no match, sorry. The day I'll need it, please gimme a 19C glock model, fitted with a 17 round mag,...thanks.:mrgreen:

Captn,

A Beretta does not have a service life of 3.5K. Either we're losing something in translation or you're just misinformed.