If this question has already been answered, I do apologize.
I have a Smith and Wesson M&P 40c and I'm looking to fire it this weekend. How many rounds would you consider to be the best for breaking in this handgun?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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If this question has already been answered, I do apologize.
I have a Smith and Wesson M&P 40c and I'm looking to fire it this weekend. How many rounds would you consider to be the best for breaking in this handgun?
Thanks in advance for your help!
It all depends on the individual gun. If it can go 300-400 rounds without any malfunction then I'd feel OK about carrying it. Usually the manufacturer will have a specific number of rounds to put through the gun to "break in" the weapon and you will find that in the owners manual. Just because you shoot the required number of rounds through the gun may not mean that it's good to go, reliability is the key.
If a few stoppages happen in the first 100 rounds I don't worry,but if there's a pattern to it or doesn't go away I find out why.If the gun is set up a touch tight,she may puke a little until things burnish in,but it'll stop.All depends on the tolerance swing in that line and how the tolerance stacks-Put alot of max tolerance parts together they'll bind,alot of min spec parts and it's sloppier.General answer because I don't know this line of guns,but it's a trait of manufacturing something.
So, within 300-400 rounds if I have no issues, it's good to go. If I have several issues, then I need to get it checked out? Just want to make sure I have this right.
Go forth and shoot the hell out of it, clean and lube as per owners manual before first range visit and learn to disassemble and keep lubed both the pistol and mags, be safe and enjoy
Buy some snap caps and watch your favorite tv shows while dry firing it. That and/or feed it as much ammo as you can afford. Invest in a Uplula loader,if you don't already have one. :smt1099
M&P's are typicaly very good pistols. As with any brand of mechanical item there is an occasional defect that slips through. If it hickups excessively S&W will take care of it at no cost to you.
I feel a few hundred trouble free rounds are necessary to provide the feeling of comfort when carrying it down the street.
For what it is worth the 4 M&P's I have owned and fired somewhere around 40,000 rounds through have all worked as advertised right out of the box.
Enjoy your new toy/tool.
Hello - I am new to this forum and a new owner of a smith & wesson M and P 9 mm.
Right out of the case - what do I need to do in order to prepthe gun before firing for the first time in my beginner class?
thanks
Nothing, those type of firearms are ready to go out of the box, and as another member said, you only need about 100 rounds of breakin if that even.Quote:
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No way for brands like Glock, Smiths, Sigs, and HKs is there a 300-400 round break in thats an overkill...
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Sorry—I disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by jakeleinen1
A brand new gun needs to be cleaned and lubricated before it is ever fired.
Since steel parts corrode, manufacturers coat them with rust inhibitors, all of which are sticky, pick up dirt, and slow the gun's action. Before firing your new gun, these must be removed.
Use gun solvent and cloth to rub the stuff off. Then lightly lubricate the gun, according to the instructions in your owner's manual.
This. It even will say so in your manual if you get a new gun. I clean and lube mine generously then take it to the range and fire 100-200 rounds, then clean and lightly lube again. Why do you emphasize light lubrication, I was told the opposite for new guns or after (and before) long term storage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1
Anyway, last handgun I bought (SW SD9) that's what I did... had a jam on the first shot actually but all of the next 1000 or so have been no problems. Got an M&P 15 a couple weeks ago and did the same thing... generous lube for the first shots, then immediately clean again. Should I not be doing that? Why?
I've always over-lubricated mechanisms and over-tightened screws, both to my eventual dismay.Quote:
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Finally, someone taught me to lubricate "only enough," whatever that means.
Since then, I have been sparing with the oil and grease, I clean guns immediately after shooting them, and then I re-lubricate—sparingly. I haven't had any problems.
(If your owner's manual says different, follow the advice in the manual.)
I still over-tighten screws, and later I'm sorry that I've done it, every time.
[QUOTE=Steve M1911A1;278371]I've always over-lubricated mechanisms and over-tightened screws, both to my eventual dismay.
Finally, someone taught me to lubricate "only enough," whatever that means.
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Absolutely agree "only enough" which I would interpret as a Generous amount.. do we lubricate to where the oil is dripping all over the place and the grease is collecting or gathering after the guns action. I sometimes over lube and over grease, just to only wipe down the over generous amount I used,lol. What are some areas of the handgun that we don't want gun lube to get at or drip into??
Assuming a semi-auto:
1. A scant drop of oil on each side of the hammer.
2. A drop of oil within each slide rail, usually during reassembly.
3. A scant drop of oil on the trigger pivot or in the trigger-bar channel.
(Now work the slide and "fire" the action a few times.)
4. Finally, give a thorough, overall external wipe with an oily cloth.
(You could use grease, if you prefer. Grease picks up more dirt, though.)
This assumes that you occasionally detail-strip your gun, clean everything, and then wipe every part with an oily rag as you reassemble the mechanism.
I've tried scant in my Ed Brown, but it still likes "wet" at least for now. Scant would probably be fine if I were only going to fire <50 rounds. I run the Wilson's wet as well and they seem to like it.
You want a light coat of oil throughout the gun for protection,and enough for lubrication on sliding and pivoting surfaces.If you're going to shoot a few hundred rounds,it's nice to have some wipes and oil with you to clean out any gunk and re-oil if needed.
No oil inside the mag or on the follower.I let a light coat sit in there a while and then wipe all traces to sight away,there's a fine,thin layer but not wet to attract dirt.The follower must be dry or you can get an inertia feed on the last round.When the slide stops rearward motion the round partially slides foward in the mag.Technically the round doesn't move,the gun jumped back.
Wipe all traces of lube from the ramp,bore and especially the chamber.The brass needs to swell and grab the chamber,it can't if it's oiled.While you want no wetness in the bore,a faint trace of oil will burn off at the first shot,no biggie.
I just bought a SW40VE and the instruction book stated to clean the gun be fore use. When I got arouind to cleaning it today Ifound out it was really DIRTY from the factory. Glad I read the book! Then I took out my older Automag-II and cleaned it up. I also found out Hoppes doesn't work as well as Barnes #10. It was fairly dirty as well and was a PITA to disasseble compared to the S&W. Before I reassembled I lubed everything up wth CLP. Did a fine job and now I am ready to get them dirty at the range.
MHO..I have always run a MOLY patchdown the barrel in addition to regular cleaning...seems to help with future cleaning. Just a thought. :rolleyes: