Advice on new firearm

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Originally Posted by jdw68

The M & P is an obvious clone. Kahr PM9 is also a (single stack) Glock clone. Lots of gun makers have created their version of the Glock just because it's a great design. Some folks cannot admit this because they hate Glocks. Easier to hate the Glock than everthing derived from the Glock. HA! My favorite part of your post was "Why? Because I know guns":anim_lol:

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ok, so the sigma IS a glock clone... s&w settled a lawsuit out of court and had to make changes in the design and pay glock a huge punative damage settlement. they did not recieve a licensing agreement however.
the m&p is a direct desendant of the 2nd generation sigma, the model produced AFTER the design changes mandated by the settlement.
so the m&p is no more a glock clone that the glock is a clone of the hk vp70 (12 years before the glock) or the browning hipower.

a polymer firearm isnt unique.... remmington started making the nylon 66 in 1959 (11years before the vp70)....

and i do know guns

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Originally Posted by jdw68

The M & P is an obvious clone. Kahr PM9 is also a (single stack) Glock clone. Lots of gun makers have created their version of the Glock just because it's a great design. Some folks cannot admit this because they hate Glocks. Easier to hate the Glock than everthing derived from the Glock. HA! My favorite part of your post was "Why? Because I know guns":anim_lol:

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"Everything derived from the Glock" , what could that be?

Striker fired? Nah

Plastic frame? Nah

Polygonal bore? Nah

Rotten,cheap sights? Eh,maybe

Safe Action? yes,but it's an oxymoron.

The Glock was designed as a cheap gun for the masses,masses meaning non gun loving people that like many LEO's and some military,could care less about guns and only have one because you shoved it in their hand.Now you have a person that is not proficient in handgun handling and safety holding a gun with the safety right in the worst place,the bangstick.Common sense would prove this is counter productive to the original intent.

Being a dangerous gun? Bingo

If you like Glocks,more power to you,if you don't like me,who cares?I think the most of Browning's 1911 and HKs,and if you ask I will give you my opinion,but the Glock lovers just really put the love/hate debate in a whole new class.The gun is not the most fantastic piece of machinery it's made out to be.How long did it take them to cure a known problem that caused them to blow up?Isn't the locking system a modified Browning design dating to the early 20th century?C'mon now,hyping up the mundane gets old and rediculous after a while.

Other than the Glock clone debate, thanks for everyone's opinion.