I, too, prefer pistols which are just as reliable as my male member.
(Could someone please tell me what it's a member of? Diners' Club? Explorers'? Phi-Beta-Kappa?)
I, too, prefer pistols which are just as reliable as my male member.
(Could someone please tell me what it's a member of? Diners' Club? Explorers'? Phi-Beta-Kappa?)
I keep it around as a reminder of just how sorry of a handgun they really are!
Haven't owned a gun in over 30 years. First purchase was a G19. I have not been disapointed. Many years ago I had 1911 type Colts that I liked, so I imagine there are things other than Glocks in my future, but I am quite happy with the Glock I have.
Same for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by berettabone
I do not care or would buy one for the same reason as alot of the older guys reasons.On top of that I dont want to carry an expensive weapon daily that will be surrendered if I have to use it.I love reliable function but glock doesnt fit my requirements.
I recently handled an XD -- I may end up trading my Glocks for their size equivalents. Although there is a lot I like about Glocks, I have had to "get used" to how they handle; the XD, on the other hand, felt just right.
I don't have a Glock, or any auto for that matter. I've had my fair share of auto's. And they worked just fine 99% of the time. But I've settled on revolvers for ultimate reliability. That's not to say revolvers can't jam. A high primer jammed my revolver in a match once. But that was once in a couple hundred thousand rounds of shooting. After 8 years in the Marines, you'd think I prefer autos. But revolvers are just more intuitive for me to deploy and shoot accurately and quickly. And no safeties or feed issues to deal with. Skill trumps firepower, and caliber, every time. I wouldn't feel under-gunned with a 22 for self defense. But to each his own. I have quite a bit of competitive experience and won my share of IPSC and bowling pin shoots, all with a revolver.Quote:
Originally Posted by jakeleinen1
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You didn't say what caliber you are talking about, and it does make a difference. In the smaller (9mm/.40) calibers, they do FEEL good, but once you shoot one, you may change your mind. The barrel sits a good bit higher, and that, combined with the less-angled grip, means they bounce a bit more when fired. Not saying they KICK harder, just that they have more muzzle flip than a comparable size/caliber Glock. Some less-experienced folks don't even notice it; some do, but it doesn't bother them.Quote:
Originally Posted by FirstTenor
Now, in .45 ACP, I prefer the XD over the Glock, extra flip be darned (I've shot them both). Glock grip is just too big for my mitts; .45 ACP XD is fine.
Thats what I wonder. Why have they not broadened their design? I mean I would certainly be willing. Sig has with the Pro and the p250. They have both had moderate success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donald
Don't have and won't have. They don't fit my eye or my hand. When i shoot one I feel like a complete spaz. Aesthetics for me are key as well.
I just read this entire thread ......wow there is 5 minutes I will never get back. I see it is a very popular stance on Handgunfurum.net to follow the lead of some of the older (more senior) members and to agree and add on. I am not an avid fan of Glock, however I have a few friends who shoot often and well and when they do, they shoot Glock. I am pretty sure my friends with their Glocks can shoot as well as (probably better then) anyone in this thread and they never consider a faliure to be an option. They have 100% confidence in their weapon. I still will not shoot one with them when we shoot together, I shoot CZ's then. However, I own a Glock. It was given to me by one of my best friends, who recently passed away. He owned many guns but left me his "when he rides the motorcycle" gun. I carry it now, mostly when I ride, in his memory as we rode together often. One thing I learned from my friend was look for the good in everything, find what you like and focus, not on what you don't like. I have said I can not find a motorcycle that doesn't have something I like about it. Gun folks should support other gun folks, even if they choose to shoot something we would not. Some of what I read here was just plain incorrect and other stuff made me scratch my head. Glock threads I need to avoid them.
RCG
Side bar..........
If anyones male member went off as often, regularily and reliably as my buddies Glocks that person would not have any time to be on the computer and he would have a smile you couldn't sandblast off his face.........
Its like the Harly or die threads on motorcycle forums. Hell even real life.Quote:
Originally Posted by recoilguy
I'm not a Glock fan. I can shoot a Glock very well, but I won't own one as long as they stay with their current design. Their ergonomics suck. Not starting an argument, just personal preference. :smt1099
I don't own a Glock.Quote:
Originally Posted by recoilguy
I've shot a couple of early 9mm iterations, owned by friends.
I found them uncomfortable. They did not sit well in my hands.
No matter how reliable the machine is, it still needs to meet the user's ergonomic needs in order to be effectively useful.
Glocks may be dead-on reliable, just like my own male member and its associated parts, but if the Glock doesn't fit the, um, user's hand, satisfaction will never be achieved.
(There: Did I carry the analogy to its logical conclusion?)
If you need more information, ask my wife.
I truly understand the comfort aspect, and the need for proper hand fitting. I am also a big fan of acheiving satisfaction. However I just read reliablity in the initial bit of banter. Thank you though for carrying this metaphor to its conclusion, it could have swelled out of proportin and possibly lasted longer then 4 hours which I hear is no good. No more information required. There was too much to begin with.
RCG
I own a Glock 31. It was my first "serious caliber" handgun purchase, so it holds some sentimental value for me. I enjoy shooting the .357 Sig round. It's extremely accurate and the report is loud as hell, which I love. It's in my carry rotation, but I've been reduced to carrying it in a lowly Blackhawk CQC holster. I have yet to find a leather holster that allows for a good and smooth draw with my Glock. The slide has a matte finish to it, so it tends to grab the interior lining of leather holsters. Bummer.
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Originally Posted by recoilguy
Jean and I are still laughing.
Thank you!
I avoid biases towards firearms, preferring to assign my preferences more reasoned and objective observations on my part. That said, enter the Glock.
I bought my first Glock, an early gen3 model 23, in the mid 90's. I didn't shoot gun well and frankly didn't give it much of a chance to prove itself to me. So I sold it and got a model 27 when they were introduced. I did better with that one but didn't care for the chunkiness of the grip and frame.... I was looking for something slimmer for concealment. Enter the Kahr.
Bought a few of those and still have any early version of their K40 Elite '98 (I bought eleven over the years and still have five). But the Kahr's are a little finicky about ammo (they're tolerances are tight) and they are single stacked. So in the spring of 2007, I got another gen3 Glock 23. This one I shot very well for some reason. Since then, I have purchased five more Glocks, all gen3's, and three of them sit in my primary carry stable.
The Glock is one of the best combat defensive sidearms you can carry, and I am being quite neutral and objective when I say this. It is very few parts. It is extremely easy to field strip for cleaning and to detail strip for deep cleaning or parts replacement. It is easy to clean and their internal parts don't tend to get as dirty as some guns. It is reliable to a fault. It is not ammo sensitive. It can handle +P+ for those calibers which offer such loadings. It is easily modifiable and after-market parts are inexpensive and easily found. It carries well and has one of the best internal safety systems made.
Am I a nutcase fan of the Glock? Nope. I just recognize the fact that the Glock does what it was made for maybe better than any other pistol out there. Is it perfect? Again, nope. Is it for everyone? One more nope. But do keep in mind the fact that for a defensive arm, there are three criteria which must be met and the first one is reliability. And this is where the Glock shines. Do I have other other sidearms in my primary carry stable? Yes I do. At present, there are three (I have two gen3 G23's so I'll only count the "main" one of them) with one probable. Glock and M&P are the companies at present.
Are there faults with the Glock? Avoiding personal opinions, I would still say yes. Their standard factory sights are bottom basement. And their factory night sights are not as good as after-market night sights. That's about it. Any other negatives are going to be based upon personal preferences.
Once again, I am not singing the praises of the plastic fantastic, but rather pointing out some facts. Many have mentioned the feel of the Glock grip. There are pistols out there which most assuredly have better feeling grips and therefore, may offer the shooter better pointability. The M&P comes to mind right away as does the CZ, the Browning Hi-Power, and possibly The Beretta and Taurus 92 series to name a few. However, there are ways to improve the Glock grip, specifically their compacts (G19 and G23), so that the gun feels more natural.
In the end, whether or not a Glock is for you is a personal matter. But one cannot find fault with the gun, its design, and its operation and reliability. So it is up to you, the buyer and user, do decide if a Glock is going to be in your picture and in your holster.
I've owned several Glocks ....
I do not like the angle of the grip.
I currently have two, and no plans to buy another.
I also prefer DA/SA guns, not striker fired guns.
I've made an exception for 2 S&W M&P's and 1 XDm's :mrgreen:
Now those are great guns IMHO
:smt1099
I'm a revolver fiend, but I do have a Glock 19.
I wouldn't sell or trade it for anything.
I've had several over the years and sold them all. Last yesr I bought a 17 3rd gen had a friend who is a glock gunsmith go through and clened up the action and installed a after market slide release, then went out and over the course of a couple of months put a couple thousand rounds through it and then shot a couple of IDPA matches and did pretty good. It now sits in the gun safe and I went back to my TRP, just feels better.
I had 4 at one time-23,27 21 and 30. After handling the M&P line ,traded or sold all the Glocks for the similar caliber and size M&P models- seemed to have better ergonomics and the same reliability. I did, however, just purchase a Gen4 Glock 20 to try out the 10mm caliber.
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Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1
AARPee
I wouldn't waste my money on a Glock.....very cheap made gun. Feels like a BB gun. Rather have a Ruger or M&P....both of which I own.Quote:
Originally Posted by jakeleinen1
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Originally Posted by Philco
...Or "can't P." :smt083