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I think the xd felt better than the glock even with the grip safety. I however don't prefer the grip safeties. Are they bad...um no. I don't know what it is but sometimes I couldn't tell the safety was there the next it just had a slight awkward feel. Maybe it takes more than 300 rounds to get used to it or something
None of the above..........Beretta 96.....Sig.........
I really do not think you will go wrong with any of the ones mentioned. :mrgreen:
Go with the one that fits you and feels good and be happy.
HI=POINT. Low price, & reasonabley made
Glock 23 with Talon sandpaper grip
Had a new gen 3 Glock 23...had ejection issues..jamming issues....JJ
You aren't the first person I have heard of to have problems out of their Glock. I know their track record is outstanding as far as reliable. I would be very hesitant in buying a new one. Now if my cousin was to sell one of his I would probably buy it because I know one had a FTE (due to crappy reloads) but other than G17 the rest they have been flawless.
The one I like the most is the Steyr S40, no others fit my hand better.
I laughed. Must be nice to have one that would actually shoot instead of messing up all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by jd_mitchell
None of the above. My choice for the 40 S&W is either my SIG 229 or my Ruger SR40c. But of the three I'd choose the S&W. I personally don't care for the other two, nothing wrong with them mind you, just not my cup of tea.
I already own a Sig P229 .40 s&w ... and I love it.
I was just looking to purchase another .40 ...
I think I'm leaning towards the S&W MP40 but before buying it, I wanna look at the Sig P250C .40 too.
Any choice words about the Sig P250C?
I really have little use for the 40 because of it's snappiness and obnoxious blast,you won't have muffs on when you need it.
Of the 3 you picked I'd have to check out a Smith.I've shot the Glock and handled an XD.Neither feel good to me but the gripsafety on the XD cures one of Glock's big flaws.If the Smith has a safety I would try it no problem.You couldn't give me a Glock,my 1911s are way safer than the 'safe action'.
If plastic was going to be had,my first choice is HK until the PPQ is proven.If I can save a little more to have a proven quality design,I can't justify saving money for good enough when my life or family's may depend on it.You get what you pay for,it works with guns too with the exception of Kimber.
None of the above..........
Okay ... so my latest thoughts now no longer include the Springfield or Glock. For that matter ... I've even dropped thinking about a Sig 250c (just not sure I'll like the DAO). Now I'm thinking about a used Sig P226 vs a new M&P 40. My collection as of now is made up of 4 Sigs (P220, 229, 238 & 239 all were new when I bought them). So should I just continue along that road and buy another one or try something different? What do you guys think ...
Well, I just found(after searching for a long time) a Beretta 96 inox w/ all stainless controls...but that's because I love Beretta's.....sounds to me like you are used to shooting Sigs.....I wouldn't mind a 226 myself.......I like the SAS models........sure are nice looking guns......
e46sc3:
commonality with the sig platform if you rotate your carry firearm. if you're just looking for fun, get something new.
i was against glock's until i fired a friends g19 at the range & never looked back for a hd/sd firearm.
i never liked the long da pull on the 1st shot with the sigs & carry a g30.
it's a soft shooter & i was more accurate with the 30 than the 27 it replaced.
In the .40S&W I have two gen3 Glock 23's, a Glock 27, an M&P 40 (4.25"), an XD40, and a Kahr Elite '98. Of these, the M&P and the Kahr have the best feel to them for me. The M&P 40 is an excellent platform to consider. Just lots of fine choices out there.
Anyone own the baby desert eagle II. I'm thinking about buying one. No one here in my town, Rents them out. I like to test it be for I buy one. I'm looking at the .40cal. I owned the 50cal be for,I liked it but was not to happy with it. A 45 is way easer to handle. So I sold it,This passed yr.
To me the .50cal more for show then anything els. Just to much power for a pistol. Rifles are great in a 308. I own a Armalite AR10A4 and is a great rifle. I just got some the new hornady zombie max ammo. Just never know where I may see some Zombies out there.Just have to be prepared for the Zombie Apocalypse...he he.lol...
I have both a Gen4 Glock22 and S&WM&P40. The M&P40 is what I carry with a Crimson trace laser grip. Right now I have a 357Sig barrel in it so it is an M&P357Sig right now. The M&P just points naturally for me when I rip it out of my IWB holster. The Gen4 Glock22 is a very very close second.
Really??? Wow! Heard a few too many horror stories about someone dropping a 1911 or having one put on a table, the table get bumped the gun fall of in the floor and fire. Never heard of it with a Glock. A safety is just a mechanism that is in place, and has a tendency to fail. People rely way to much on that one little piece of machinary. When that happens you take it for granted that it will always function properly. I have seen them stick and not be able to get pushed to fire. Also seen them "on safety" something be wrong with it and the gun still shoot. Much rather rely on keeping my finger off the trigger and the gun pointed away from nothing I don't intend on shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by rex
Of course we won't talk about in a stressful situation the loss of fine motor skills that you will need to work the safety lever, and without proper training/practice the very vast majority will forget to even flip the safety to fire.
Why not just go out and a limb and try it. I mean if you like Sigs and just want to stay in your comfort zone then by all means snatch another. But, since you have 4 already I would say get something different jus tot have fun. I think you will be pleasantly suprised by the M&P.Quote:
Originally Posted by E46SC3
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
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Originally Posted by Bigpoppy
Why not FNP-40. I've had S&W people guys fall in love with it after shooting it
I think most would consider this a range gun. So if you are looking for a range gun, fine. But I think it is a bit big and heavy for CC.Quote:
Originally Posted by aggie29
I voted for S&W M&P and I own one.
But I wouldn't buy a .40 cal.
I own several, but do not care for the caliber.
If you want big - I like .45
If you want inexpensive caliber - then 9mm
I, like you like Sig Sauer best - you might look at a Sig P220
Here's mine and it's a tack driver
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...rP22045cal.jpg
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Those 1911 ND's are rare and suspect,besides most 1911s have been using a FP for over 30 yrs.A spec 1911 will not go off at hip or table height,but an altered trigger group or weak FP spring may cause it,not the original design.Glock's failure is putting the safety in the trigger like it isn't there,a little research will pull up AD's of reholstering and the trigger being tripped.I believe most are negligent but there are cases no finger was involved.My 1911 can not go off unless I make it do so or screw up.
Forgetting to hit the safety carries no weight for me,the thumb automatically wants to hit it on the draw,the real training is to stop that from happening until you want it off per the situation.I have never missed it let alone forget,even in speed rocks.I figure if someone can't handle a safety,they need a revolver.If a safety is too hard for them they aren't going to handle a stoppage very well at all.
Okay, first of all I'd like to thank everyone who voted on my poll, and to those who left some feedback on this thread. But, today I finally made my decision about which .40 I would buy. As it turns out, I didn't buy any of the three I put on the poll or for that matter any of the previous Sigs I had spoken about. Each of those firearms are all fine firearms and I'm sure I would have been happy with any of them. But, I just couldn't keep myself from buying another Sig. Well, actually two new Sigs ... First up I purchased a SP2022 as my primary home defense pistol. It was the firearm I chose over the three on my poll. Second up I picked up another P229 only this one is the enhanced elite version. I have always loved how the elites have beavertails, addition slide serrations and the short reset trigger. Can't wait until I get to bring them home. Thanks again everyone!