Bond Arms Derringers
I have an opportunity to obtain a Bond Arms derringer with the .410/45 Colt barrel. I'm hoping to hear from some of you here that have one of these or at least have fired one. I'm interested in the recoil/ control-ability of this particular version - I know they come in a wide variety of chamberings with interchangable barrels (one of the features that intrigues me), but I imagine the 45 colt/,410 shot shell version is among the most powerful as far as recoil.
Thanks for any info on this interesting little gun.
I have had the chance to shoot a Bond 45/410, I think it was the 2000 or maybe the cowboy not sure of the model right now. The recoil was not real bad but the accuracy at even short range was very poor (at lest for me). May be great for some as a personal protection gun, but I don't think I really want to hang my life on a 2 shot wonder. There are a lot more reliable pocket sized SD guns out there and for home protection in a 45/410 look at the S&W Governor or even the Taurus Judge lets face it 5 is better than 2. As the man said nobody ever walked away from a gun fight wishing he hadn't brought so much ammunition.
Thanks for the feedback, sgms. I agree it would not be a primary SD choice, although I think it may work well as a car gun - easy to have available in the "car holster". For responding to a car-jacking threat I suspect two of the new SD .410 SD loads or 00 buckshot would be sufficient. For general CCW use, though, I'd stick with my LCR. My problem with the Judge variants and the Governor is their size and lack of conceal-ability, although for sure 5 is better than 2! I've not decided about the purchase, so I do thank you for sharing your views!
Any .410 load fired from a derringer won't do enough damage to discourage a determined thug. Indeed, it might only make him mad.
Because the Bond Arms gun is single-action, you will, at best, get off only one round. You will not have the chance to re-cock to fire the second.
And then, even if you do get two shots off, do you know about the contortions required of you, to reload a derringer?
If you insist upon buying this derringer, use only .45 "Long" Colt cartridges in it.
But I believe that it is not a good purchase.
(BTW: I say the exact same things about .410 shells fired from the Judge and Governor, excepting, of course, that you get to fire many more shots.)
Not only are the things mentioned above about loading and cocking but also they bond derringers Have a hard trigger to squeeze they are bout 12 lbs up to 20 lbs trigger pull and if you buy it look at either 45 LC winchester silver tip hollow points or federal 410 personal defense loads with the disc in them or buck shot. best of luck on your purchase.
I disagree with you there Steve...fired at point blank like in a carjack or mugging the 410 would most definitely be deadly.
Who was the movie star(bruce Li??Brandon Li??) that killed himself with a BLANK gun by shooting himself in the head screwing around with a 9mm blank stage prop gun?
A 410 OO would do a great deal more damage than that.And a cranked up doper on PCP wont feel a 44 mag go off in his gut so theres that to contend with anyway.
back in the early 80s there was a tv guy name jon eric hexum (i think) who popped himself in the noggin with a gun that was loaded with blanks..... sent some wadding right thru the brain.... he was the star of a tv show about spys or private eyes or whatever.....
Originally Posted by scooter