40 caliber question

Newbie comments.
I was talking with a guy whom I got my 229 40 165/fmj ( sw ammo)

he said the recoil was less then his 357 or 45.
I read all over conflicting reports.

Example, ( please correct me if I am wrong but heres my take)

I have a nice Savage Mark11 22LR 10 clip with bolt action. solid black.
My father in law has the exact gun but in a 1.17 model.
His has a tad amount of recoil and is louder with the same basic grain ammo.
I realize why that may happen more grain out of a smaller barrel creates more velocity hence more
power at the end. However this is my point even the smallest variation can be different.

I have heard ppl say a p229 40 with 165/fmj has average recoil
some say its fine and recoil isn't really a consideration.

I think allot of what a gun / rifle feels like is subjective to the person pulling the trigger.
Try them out see what you like.

40 sounds cooler then 9mm LOL

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Originally Posted by Cybertoad

Newbie comments.
I was talking with a guy whom I got my 229 40 165/fmj ( sw ammo)

he said the recoil was less then his 357 or 45.
I read all over conflicting reports.

Example, ( please correct me if I am wrong but heres my take)

I have a nice Savage Mark11 22LR 10 clip with bolt action. solid black.
My father in law has the exact gun but in a 1.17 model.
His has a tad amount of recoil and is louder with the same basic grain ammo.
I realize why that may happen more grain out of a smaller barrel creates more velocity hence more
power at the end. However this is my point even the smallest variation can be different.

I have heard ppl say a p229 40 with 165/fmj has average recoil
some say its fine and recoil isn't really a consideration.

I think allot of what a gun / rifle feels like is subjective to the person pulling the trigger.
Try them out see what you like.

40 sounds cooler then 9mm LOL

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It is different for all people. The .40 round in most weapons is a little more snappy than a 9mm but for me in something like my P229 Sig it's not any bog deal. It's not a big deal in my Para P16. It is more noticeable in my Browning Pro 40 but it's a poly framed weapon. I has less weight. Still though I like the round and shoot it pretty regularly. For most people I say check it out. You might like it. If recoil is a big issue in your handgun buying mind then you might want to get a 9mm.

I have also shot the 229, last weekend actually, and I didn't think the difference in recoil was much different than a 9mm. I personally chose to get a 9mm because it is cheaper to shoot, and I plan on doing a lot of that.... :)

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Originally Posted by DevilsJohnson

It is different for all people. The .40 round in most weapons is a little more snappy than a 9mm but for me in something like my P229 Sig it's not any bog deal. It's not a big deal in my Para P16. It is more noticeable in my Browning Pro 40 but it's a poly framed weapon. I has less weight. Still though I like the round and shoot it pretty regularly. For most people I say check it out. You might like it. If recoil is a big issue in your handgun buying mind then you might want to get a 9mm.

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Devil's right: it depends on the shooter. I think it also depends on the gun. Shooting 40S&W from a P226 is quite different than shooting it from a G27. Apples and oranges some say, but there is a difference.

The 40S&W has a bad rep in my house.. When I decided to get into handgun ownership, I purchased a Glock 22 and shot 100-200 rounds a week. It didn't take long for a bone spur to form in my main-hand thumb (grip thumb). After some serious pain and thought, I started shooting some friends' handguns as well as some range-rented ones and quickly realized both 9mm and 45ACP calibers are more forgiving on the hands. Later I did some research and found out the 40S&W had the highest pressures of all three. This was all I needed to explain the bone spur and the pain (also due to lots of shooting, of course... I can't blame it all on the caliber).

I think most people who claim they don't feel the difference between 40S&W and 45ACP just don't shoot enough of these rounds to notice. At the same time, the differences between 9mm/40S&W/45ACP are pretty small in the grand scheme of things, and all serve their intended purpose regardless of their minor differences.

If your range time is only once a month or so, and you're going to shoot less than 200 rounds per trip, you probably won't notice much of a difference. If you plan on shooting more than that, you probably will notice more of a difference, and so will your wallet. Bad guys won't be able to tell the difference if you do your part.

You're exactly right. THe weapon makes a huge difference. The 40 round in my P16 is no big deal at all. But it's a double stacked 1911 type thing. All steel frame. The same rounds in my Browning Pro 40 are more easily felt but it is a poly frame and has a hammer so the dreaded higher bore axis comes into play. So you not only have the person as a variable but the weapon type that the persona is holding. What they perceive as a lot of recoil combined with the actual felt recoil due to size and weight of the weapon.