Businesses that don't want us

Old thread I know. But in the last couple months the Pilot truck stop in Murfreesboro (I used to stop there for coffee) started putting a sign saying no firearms allowed on premises. I do not know if it's just that location or if it's any others as well. I will be contacting our new Governor (who ran Pilot for a while if he's not still running it) to explain why this formerly loyal customer will no longer be patronizing his family's business.

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Originally Posted by SargeTN

Old thread I know. But in the last couple months the Pilot truck stop in Murfreesboro (I used to stop there for coffee) started putting a sign saying no firearms allowed on premises. I do not know if it's just that location or if it's any others as well.

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I recently took a road trip cross country and don't recall seeing any signs at other Pilot stations or Flying J stations. (Pilot bought Flying J earlier this year)

As a mater of fact, I didn't see any no firearms, handguns, etc., signs anywhere I stopped the entire trip.

I was told in the last couple days that they took them down. Went by this morning and sure enough they're gone. Must have been enough gun owners speaking out on the issue and Haslam realizing that it would hurt him really bad politically.

No signs on Krogers here in North Alabama, at least at the one that's right down the street from us.

Same with the local Applebees. In fact, I'm not aware of any overt anti-gun stores in the Huntsville/Madison area. There's probably some but I don't shop a lot.

I know the local Starbucks is used by the North Alabama contingent of the Alabama Open Carry meetings.

Buffalo Wild Wings and the Lexington Center are both posted here in Lexington, KY. :smt076

KG

In NH you're prohibited from carrying federal buildings and Schools.

However, on private property (including stores, theaters, restaurants, etc.), the property owner can set a “no guns” policy, ask you to leave if you’re carrying, and have you arrested for trespassing if you don’t leave, but otherwise you’re legal. If you have a concealed permit and have your weapon truly concealed, you shouldn't have a problem.

(Info above from pgnh.org)

NH...Live Free or Die motto is true :)

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Originally Posted by kg333

Buffalo Wild Wings and the Lexington Center are both posted here in Lexington, KY. :smt076

KG

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That's kind of funny. Buffalo Wild Wings isn't posted here in Buffalo.

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Originally Posted by sigsas68

graybar in Buffalo NY doesn't allow weapons in there store for the saftey of there customers and employees

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That is a crock. They are thereby less safe.

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Originally Posted by bruce333

NC State law does not specify the exact signage required, only that it be posted at all entrances.

NC State law prohibits concealed carry at banks.

(I'm not touching the post office can of worms)

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There is currently a lawsuit brought by a couple in Colorado to change the Post office can of worms into a definitive "Yes You Can", open or concealed or both. Whatever is legal in that particular state.

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Originally Posted by Baldy

I was surpised that there is no law in Florida against carrying in a bank. PO,schools,and hospitals. Of course Gov buildings.

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In the nine states of which I have direct familiarity, banks are not one of the places banned by law. Nor are churches anywhere anyone isn't an idjiot who wrote the law.

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Originally Posted by 2old2worry

Jason's Deli in Fort Worth has a NO GUNS policy, with sign. I emailed them and received a return telephone call from the district manager. I asked him if he had heard of Luby's in Killeen (1992). He said that he definitely knew about Luby's and was a gunowner himself. He further stated that he didn't think that a customer who was licensed to carry would be bothered by Luby's employees. I told him that I knew the law and that I wouldn't risk losing my CHL or be prosecuted for carrying in posted businesses; that I and my extended family would no longer patronize Luby's.

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Jason's or Luby's????

FWIW, I work at the Sportsman's Warehouse in Albuquerque, NM in the gun dept. Our store allows both concealed carry and open carry without exception. However, they draw the line when someone comes in, comes back to the gun department, and then removes his pistol from the holster in order to try it out with other holsters. We don't care for that as most people that do this will not render the firearm safe before trying other holsters! They simply leave them loaded! Otherwise, we don't care if you carry or not. I really thought this was store policy for all of the stores. I haven't been to the store in Colorado, though.

per Corporate email, the following business allow lawful carry in their stores

Email & Letterheads can be downloaded here: NorthWest Citizens Defense League - Store Policy Bulletins

Fred Meyer / Kroger
Safeway Weapons Policy
Best Buy
Walmart
Toys R Us
Barnes & Noble book stores
Lowes
Home Depot
Cabelas (as long as it stays holstered)
Sportsman's Warehouse (as long as it stays holstered)

Check out the website: Friend or Foe - TheSecond.us for a list of business friendly and anti in your area. just put in your zip code. Green is pro / Red is anti.

Great information sharing by you dude, this is really very nice and a great information inside in it. nice to have this post.

koozies

In NH I've read that no business has the right to tell people they cant carry, and that only the state can say where it is or is not legal to carry. Although it seems like most of the cops here, like most cops I've come across, dont even know the laws they've sworn to enforce. So when someone sees a gun and calls the police it turns into a scene. I cant tell you how many stories I've heard where open carriers were asked for their permit In a state that doesnt require a permit or registration.

Only place i wont carry here is where they told me i couldnt in my CCW course.Pretty much just the normal,no federal buildings,banks or places that sell and consume alcohol.As far as stores and such i dont look for signs before i go in.If i have a CCW on me they wont know anyways and ill be damned if myself, or one of my family, will become a statistic because some friggan idiot manager has a power trip and puts a dumb ass sign up.The reason i got the CCW is to protect myself and my family from harm and i will do that till the last breath leaves my body.

In Missouri, it doesn't make any difference what signs they put up. You are legally permitted to carry anywhere that isn't specifically banned by state or federal law, such as hospitals, schools, government buildings. Private property owners and businesses can put up all the signs they want. They can't stop you from carrying there. Now if you are careless, and let someone see your gun, and it causes a ruckus, they can ask you to leave. But beyond that, anything goes. So I don't pay much attention to who does or doesn't have signs posted. And Missouri gun laws are mandated state wide. They can NOT be superseded by county or local laws. If you have a permit you can carry anywhere in the state.

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Originally Posted by benzuncle

This is a great thread! In Florida, we are "in the middle" so to speak. I think Baldy meant to say that carrying in the Post Office, Schools and Hospitals is forbidden. You can carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol but cannot carry in a bar that serves peanuts and pretzels. :mrgreen: That's pretty much a no brainer.

Jvette's quote: "I don't carry in any business as far as they know. Isn't that the idea of my CCW?" is the method I adopted.
In Florida, signs posted at the entrances mean only that if you are "discovered" they can ask you to leave and unless you want trouble, you would do well to leave immediately and quietly. If not, then there can be trouble. But if you leave immediately, nothing will happen. Just don't give them a hard time or use hand jestures such as, "You're Number One" if you get my drift. Just leave quietly and peaceably.

There are cards you can print that can be given to a store should you decide you do not want to do business there. The one I have (Sorry, I can't get it to run though Photobucket) is two-sided. On the front it has a picture of a firearm and a $ sign. Each has the red circle with the line through it. The meaning implied is NO FIREARMS = NONE OF MY MONEY. Below it are the words:
I have noticed your sign and will respect your
wishes by taking my business elsewhere.
I only shop where I can carry.

On the backside it says:
As a Citizen with a concealed handgun license, I:
• Have no felony convictions
• Have never been convicted of domestic violence
• Have no history of mental illness or drug addiction
• Have passed a background check and have my
fingerprints on file with the Authorities
• Have passed mandatory training in both the use
of a firearm and the applicable law
Can you say that about your other customers?

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I've played different "cards" over the years.... these....

http://personal.swayzee.com/jayb/no business color.jpg

If you want to make your own, here are links to the front and back of the cards in a business card format. You can edit them to reflect your state's requirements.

card front

card back


You can get the business card stock at Walmart for $5 per 100 cards

Indiana is another State where a "no guns" sign does not carry the weight of law. Only a few places are forbidden.

Does anyone know any businesses on the Mississippi Gulf Coast that don't allow carrying?

Last I read, some places are universally no carry. Like Bars(not restaurants that serve booze), POs, courthouses, any government building that does official business, police & sheriff departments & schools.

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Originally Posted by jd_mitchell

Last I read, some places are universally no carry. Like Bars(not restaurants that serve booze), POs, courthouses, any government building that does official business, police & sheriff departments & schools.

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Check your State's laws. Some restrictions are universal, and some are not.

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Originally Posted by jd_mitchell

Last I read, some places are universally no carry. Like Bars(not restaurants that serve booze), POs, courthouses, any government building that does official business, police & sheriff departments & schools.

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Universal? No, bars and schools in particular vary from state to state. And for the love of Pete, use a font that doesn't scorch our eyes.

KG

Jared's Jewerly, Loveland, CO has conspicuous sign that not only prohibits CCW in store but anywhere on the property including the parking lot.

I think in Fl if you are in a restaurant that sells alcohol, and has a bar. you may not be in the bar section but you may be in the dinning section, and no consumption of alcohol while carrying, may be wrong but was told that somewhere, and private signs in FL are not by law, they can ask you to leave , but not have you arrested,

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Originally Posted by prevost

I think in Fl if you are in a restaurant that sells alcohol, and has a bar. you may not be in the bar section but you may be in the dinning section

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I've heard it both ways; that it's OK to eat in the bar area, but not belly up to the bar itself or the entire bar area is off limits. As I avoid the bar area like the plague anyway because of the noise and usually they have high tables and stools that don't mix well with my kids, I don't worry about it.

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Originally Posted by prevost

private signs in FL are not by law, they can ask you to leave , but not have you arrested,

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Private signs carry no legal right by themselves here. However if you are discovered to be carrying an a posted no-carry business, they have the right to ask you to leave. If you don't leave, then you can be charged with criminal trespass.