I like the Sig P232. The next runner up is the PPK.
I agree about the Sig P232. Mine is a P230 but it is basically the same gun.
:smt023The Sig P232 is great. My every day carry before that was a Walther PPK/s(not the S&W version) and I liked that one too. I don't like the micro's that leave your pinky dangling and your ring finger at the bottom.
I have always been a pretty big Ruger fan, but I voted for the Keltec here. I have heard too many horror stories about Ruger handguns. I, for one, am not willing to wait a year to get back a weapon that i need.
I own a keltec p3at. Having said that, I'd consider getting a small revolver in 38. Ruger's new LCR or any of the lightweight Smiths. I'm in the process of selling my 380 to purchase one of the above mentioned. I'm a big old guy who has trouble with little semiautos. My eyes and hands get in the way. Also, I don't like the idea of not having a slide stop.
Since I have the LCP that is what I would recommend. I have shot about 300 rounds through it. In my opinion very accurate out to 15 yards. Anything past that is a challenge for me. Of course, chances are it won't be used further than 15 yards out. I carry in the right front pocket, and never leave without it... I still have my Glock 27, the LCP is so much easier to carry.
After owning my LCP for several months, I finally took the time to learn how to shoot it accurately, because I was thinking about ordering a CT laser sight for it, and I just wanted to see if it was accurate enough to be worth the expenditure.
I kept working with my grip and sight picture until, by using a little Kentucky windage, I was able to consistently put 10 shots inside a 4" circle around the bullseye, at 10 yards. I was very pleased with myself, and decided that the little gun was accurate enough to be worth the $160 I was about to spend on it for the laser sight.
I was pleased to see that the Crimson Trace laser sight was a very good quality item, easy to install, and most importantly, that it worked seamlessly with the way I fired the pistol. After a little trouble understanding the sighting in instructions, I finally figured it out, and discovered that I could now shoot smaller groups, at greater distances, and do it much, much faster.
I am now much more confident with my 'mouse gun,' and actually feel like I could stop a threat with it, if I had to, at something other than point-blank type distances.
Ruger seems to be ahead in your poll for one reason--it is a Ruger; the difference is it is not the 38 spl 101 and it is not the 22LRs Mark I, II or III. Kel Tec is in the business of small and is successful with a limited lifetime warranty. It is less expensive and truly for the pocket. It is not a target gun and it is not a big time defense gun but if you want to have CCW and do not want a load in your pocket--the Kel Tec is the one. It is small and somewhat inconvenient in size so you have to get used to it but you will carry it and have it all the time and not make any excuses on size or weight.
My wife uses a Walther PPK/S as her carry weapon and loves it. Yes, we went through the recall and it was a pain, but she wouldn't trade it for anything. She says it just works for her better than anything else, and she has tried on a lot of guns.
the new sig in 380 is interesting
but i'm just not sure about a pocket gun unless with cargo pants
May I throw a wrench into the box!
My EDC up to last week was the LCP. I happened upon a Kel Tec P11. Liked the feel and the fact it is a bigger and more available round, 9mm. I compared it against the LCP and to be truthful it is a bit bigger and a bit heavier, but so far I have not found an issue carrying it.
And if you are considering a PPK, P232, P380, or the like, this 9mm Kel Tec is probably equally the same size if not smaller. And did I mention less expensive?
I know all the experts here are gonna slam Kel Tec, but ya know they are in the top 10 for a reason. This is the first ever Kel Tec for me and so far I really like it. And it shoots straight and accurate.
I'm just sayin'
nice wrench, 'paws :)
It's not on the poll....but have you looked at the Walther PK380? Tried one this past weekend.......quite impressed.
Well, I got a Kel-Tec p3at. Not a range gun, but it does not need to be. It does what it was made for, and does it well.
Not enough choices on your survey - so I voted hit them with a shovel.
None of our .380's are on the survey, but they should be.
We shoot & carry a Walther PPKS. It is light & shoots like a dream.
Also 2 Sig Sauer's - 1 P230 SL and 1 P232 - both are excellent guns and very light & not at all bulky - easy to carry & hide.
They all 3 shoot well and are very well made.
If you learn how to shoot them, they are deadly.
Update - we just added 2 Ruger LCP's - just shoot them a few times but did well at close distance - no jams., unbelievably light and small - it's been in my front pocket since I bought it in a DeSantis pocket holster.
AHHH just what I needed another gun ...:rolleyes:
I know this is not one of the options but here are my two cents.
Look at Kahr, they make a 9mm that is tiny.
About the Sig 232, nice gun but it's big enough to shoot a 9mm. I will wait and buy one after they do that.
Walther PK380! It's about the same price (mid-$300's) and it's Walther quality. I've owned the P22 and the P99 and loved them both for their reliability and ergonomics-they feel great in my hand.
I like the Sig p232 SS. I carry it now and then.
Wouldn't have either, but thats just me.
P3AT is a good firearm. Relatively cheap, reliable, light weight, and easy to clean. Great bug. The .380 ammo is always out of stock and overpriced when it is available. Take a look at the taurus 709 slim - $350 - $400. Not much bigger, better caliber, and ammo is much easier to find. The recoil is also considerably better the the keltec 9mm lineup.