Who Has One?
Who Has One?
I don't know what a class III pemit is, so I voted know but I want one.:anim_lol:
I'd like some class III stuff, but I have no use for them. I don't need a suppressor for my .22LR or .45, and I don't need a fully automatic MP5 or M4 for HD. Not worth the six month wait and $200 stamp, at least not for me.
What's a Class III "permit?"
As I understand the process, you apply for a tax stamp for each NFA item. There's no "permit" like you'd get to carry a concealed pistol.
I don't have any NFA guns due to lack of interest in them.
As stated previously, not a permit. But, I do have an ATF form 1, filled out and stamped that goes with my homeade suppressor.
A form 4 would be required to buy a premade full auto/suppressor/short barreled rifle or shotgun.
There fun, but my suppressor only cost me the price of the stamp. $200.
Everything else I had to make it.
Found this on their site guess i should have looked a little harded before starting a thread :mrgreen:
Machine Guns-- Legalities of Ownership
It is a common misconception that machine guns cannot be owned by law-abiding citizens. This comes from the creation of a variety of confusing laws that have made purchasing a full-auto gun more difficult than purchasing a "normal" gun. But, you can comply with the law and own a machine gun.
First a little history: In May of 1986, certain laws went into effect that made it illegal for 'civilians' to own fully automatic firearms that were manufactured AFTER THAT DATE. Most fully automatic weapons manufactured and registered BEFORE MAY, 1986, MAY BE OWNED BY AND SOLD TO INDIVIDUALS. The full-auto guns that may be owned by individuals are called 'transferable'. Some states DO NOT allow machine gun ownership at all, no matter when the gun was made, but most states do.
To purchase a transferable machine gun, you must meet certain requirements (generally the same as when you purchase another gun), fill out special paperwork (called a 'form 4'), and pay a $200, one-time, transfer tax. Every time a machine gun is transferred, the $200 tax must be paid-- usually by the purchaser. The steps to take to purchase a transferable machine gun are:
Find a dealer locally who can assist you in all phases of the transfer. This should go beyond helping you fill out the paperwork: they should help you locate the gun if it isn't in stock and allow you to shoot the gun while your paperwork is being processed by the BATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms). It will usually take 4-6 weeks for the dealer to get the gun from another dealer if they don't already have it in stock (due to BATF paperwork delays).
Get your fingerprints (either by a police dept. or by a qualified fingerprinter, two imprints are needed) and two passport sized pictures taken. These will be used to perform a comprehensive criminal background check on you.
Have your local dealer help you fill out an "Application for Tax Paid Transfer And Registration Of Firearm" for, known as a "form 4".
You must have the signature of the Chief Law Enforcement (CLEO) officer that has jurisdiction over the municipality in which you live on the form 4. This could be the City Chief or the County Sheriff, for example. This is usually not a problem-- in machine gun friendly states. The form 4, CLEO signature, 2 fingerprint cards, 2 pictures, and a $200 check (your one-time transfer tax) must all be mailed to the BATF and an approved tax stamp returned before you may take possession of the gun. This may take anywhere from 2 to 5 months.
Although it may seem complicated, we are happy to help you through every step in the process. We have transferable guns in stock, and if we don't have it, we can tap into a network of dealers in other states to find it for you. Let us help you get the full-auto gun that you've always wanted-- they are worth it!
In all honesty, unless you have a legitimate use for a class III weapon, it's too expensive and time-consuming to bother. I wouldn't mind having a Glock 18 though (full-auto Glock 17).
No interest, especially full-auto. I can barley afford to shoot now, no need to spit 30+ rounds down range in a couple seconds. I might as well toss money in the toilet. :mrgreen:
As we like to say at Galco, full-autos are the best way in the world to turn dollars into noise.
One-shot-at-a-time accuracy vastly increases your apparent ammunition supply.
Full-auto is not a viable replacement for well-practiced competence.
I like them but I could never pay for the ammo bill.:mrgreen:
In all actuality, it's $32 I'd like to have back, but it's too late to send it back in for a refund. Oh well, lesson learned. Don't buy a threaded barrel end until you actually have the suppressor.
If you want further information on firearms and items covered by the NFA, here are a few good places to start
I'd love to own a Class III. In particular, an MP5. They are a pretty fun little gun to shoot (I shoot them from time to time) and relatively inexpensive to shoot being 9mm.
I have on the other hand been bitten by the SBR bug. I am currently in process for an SBR and suppressor for my PS90. There is absolutely no need for it, other than I could afford it and I think it'd be cool as all get out! I'd also like to get my FAL shortened to 14", but that's a ways down the road. I've got bolt guns to reach out there, so I think it'd be fun to either SBR that .308, or buy a SCAR-H when they come out.
As an aside, there are a couple of guys at Impact that are pretty knowledgeable, I have spoken with them quite a bit in person, and they are usually more than willing to spend an hour BSing about NFA stuff.
There is little need for full auto other than the smile factor it gives you.
Ditto on the smile factor!
Legitimate reason? This from a guy who owns throwing stars?
They are fun. That’s a good enough reason. It is expensive, but you really need to experience a brass rainbow from a Mac.
Its also a lot of fun to shoot your suppressed .22 for a couple of hours with no hearing protection.
Hey FHF, my nephew may want to buy that barrel from you.
Does that mean that you are no longer a Ninja and in Fight Club, so you can talk about it?
Or, you are still a Ninja, and still in Fight Club, so you can't talk about it?
Are we getting a little self-referential and circular, here?