I'm new here and did a quick search before posting, but I did not find exactly what I was looking for.
I want to get the smallest .40 that I can for concealed carry. I had heard that the Kahr PM40 was the smallest gun out there in .40, but when I did some further research I stumbled across the CW40. Huge price difference.
I realize that the CW40 lacks some of the refinements of the PM series, but what about functionality and size.
What I have read indicates that the CW is a hair thinner, but almost 3/4" longer than the PM series. I don't like the idea of the longer length.
Are magazine capacities equal? What about reliability? If it were you, which would you choose?
The price is certainly an issue, but for me the size and reliabiltiy are the most important considerations.
Thank you for helping this newbee.
The PM40 & the CW40 are the exact same thickness. The PM40 is about an inch shorter in OAL, and about 1/2" less in height. It holds 1 less round of ammo. The PM comes with 2 mags, while the CW comes with one.
Can't address reliability specifically for those 2 models, but I suspect it's good. My P40 has been 100% reliable.
The PM40 is the smallest .40 I've ever seen.
I does come with 2 magazines. One is a flush-fit 5 round mag. The other is an extended 6-round mag.
It's a very reliable, accurate gun. And mine will be for sale soon... only because I'm thinking hard about the new PM45, and I know I can get more in a private sale than I can in trade for mine.
Jeff, Let me know when you're ready to sell. If I haven't pulled the trigger on one yet, I may be interested. I work in Palm Bay, so I'm not that far from you. Best to reach me at email@example.com
The fact that the CW comes with only one magazine compared to two on the PM40 is not really an issue. When you figure how much more the PM cost than the CW, if all other things were equal, you could certainly afford to buy a second magazine a la carte and still be way ahead of the game.
If the CW is indeed a full inch longer overall than the PM, I will either step up to the PM or just hold off until I can afford what I want.
A co-worker just showed me the new Springfield XD sub-compact he bought for concealed carry. He has had it only a few days and already has buyer's remorse. He said it's too thick to carry comfortably.
I would hate to make the same mistake and that is why I'm looking just at the Kahr. I think the thinner the better. It's amazing that 1/4" can make such a difference
:smt068I just traded an XD 9 SC for a Kahr CW9. The XD is like a boat anchor. Great gun, but way too big for me to carry. The CW is a dream, shoots great and conceals very easily, either in big pocket or IWB. It is so light that you can hardly tell it's there. Wish I would have done this a long time ago. Along with my trusty P3AT my concealed needs have been met very successfully. Thin is in.
Do you think you would have been even happier with the PM instead of the CW? An extra inch in length can make quite a difference in concealing comfortably.
Originally Posted by Cockroach
I don't think that the length of the gun is hard to conceal when using an IWB, and comfort is the same with a 3" barrel and a 4" barrel for me. The hard thing I have to conceal is the grip. My PPK/S carried well, but the extended mag and even the flat mag prints more than my PM9 with flat mag.
I think I have made up my mind to go with the PM 40, whether I get it as soon as I would like or not.
What do you guys suggest for the best self defense ammunition for this gun as well as the best IWB holster?
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