No one wants to tell me my guns are pretty? (Or, ridiculous...)
i think what color you use makes the difference. the green beretta looks sharp the rest?
They are ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Holly
Hear me out. From a very practical point of view, I don't associate lethal weapons with pink and glitter - and I don't think that you should either.
If the absolute worst happened -- and you were forced to use your weapon to defend your life, those painted guns will be put into plastic bags, and taken as evidence (regardless of the circumstances).
The meth-addict that crawled in your window has a family, and even a mom who loves him.
His mom may not agree with your decision to shoot her son (despite his intentions at your house).
She might hire a lawyer, and press criminal or civil charges against you. Further, depending on where you live, the DA might go after you also.
At this point, everything will be used against you. Your goal is to give them as little as possible. Decorating your self-defense weapons with nail polish isn't going to look good in court. The DA will absolutely warm up his "Modern Culture and the Glorification of Violence" speech. And he'll preach about young people who play Call of Duty and consider murder to be a recreational pastime.
When dealing with matters of deadly force, you need to be really, really careful.
Sorry to be a buzz-kill.
I have a brother that works for the DA's office, and a sister that's a defense attorney.
And, appearances matter. (On a very similar topic, load your defense weapons with something called "Home Defender" - and avoid "Zombie Killer Max").
I know that you were just having fun. The point here is how things can get *really* twisted when lethal force puts you in front of a jury.
I have to agree with FullHouse. While I can appreciate a little "personalization", Altered firearms can be a big liability, depending on what state you live in. No problem if they are strictly for range or competition use, but a prosecutor would have a field day with a "zombie" gun used in self defense. Nice job though.
Massad Ayoob is very much against altering a defensive firearm in any way! You can bandy semantics all day, but painting a gun is an alteration. The paint job may not have any special meaning for you, but an attorney will use it against you as a sign of a dangerous mentality. They will "paint" you as someone who thinks using a firearm to take a life is just a game. I've Duracoated many firearms over the last few years, but what I carry is box stock. I also live in California, which is not gun friendly to begin with, so I know where the lines are and don't cross them. Customizing your firearms is a great pastime, but you need to keep in mind how the ignorant masses view us as firearms owners.
If a firearm is involved in a homicide (and justifiable homicide is still homicide), the weapon will be introduced into evidence for the jury to see and reflect upon. If the gun has neon nail polish, or flash lights, or pink grips, or threatening engravings, or gold plating - nothing at all need be said or implied for those facts to have an impression on the jurors. That's just the way it is. There are no "lines of liability". The simple question is: could your modifications work against you.
Even if so, you can still do them. I'm not going to paint pink and glitter on my Sigs - but I do have a 20-round mag in one of them. Could that be used against me? Certainly. Sometimes we choose to accept the risk of our choices. The point is to (at minimum) consider how our choices will look on a table, sitting in front of 12 Obama voters. If you've done that, and want to keep your decorations - more power to ya!
Your guns are beautiful. You two have both picked very high quality brands for the AR and the Glock designs. You both obviously know what you are doing.
Originally Posted by Holly
Looks like you were trained well, by the finest fighting force the world has ever known. And you were great students of war.
I salute you.
FULLHOUSE, I think your thinking is just maybe jaded by old school thinking.
Originally Posted by FullHouse
This young married couple is the future. Their way of thinking is way different than ours.
To us, being old school, a pistol or tactical rifle is an implement of war and death.
For them, it is something to protect themselves with.
I doubt it would make any difference at all to anybody that their guns are beautifully designed. That's just an artistic way for them both to de-emphasize the sinister nature of defense weapons.
Yeah, that's incorrect.
"Just maybe influenced jaded by old school thinking"
I'm engaged, and getting married next October.
I'm part of their generation, not yours.
If you disagree with my point of view, that's absolutely fine.
Well it was just my guess.
Originally Posted by FullHouse
Whatever gets younger people interested in self defense and gun possession is fine with me.
And I don't consider etching, engraving, paint, and custom grips as "modification."
It seems more like art work to me.
"And I don't consider etching, engraving, paint, and custom grips as "modification."
Great point! A lot of people such as myself, love the looks of firearms and don't consider them to be just a tool for personal protection. I also love the looks of engines, automotive, motorcycle and especially large diesels that are in semi's and freight trains. With the exception of freight locomotives many of those engines are decked out with chrome and stainless steel components. If you got into an accident in a vehicle and the accident was your fault would the prosecutor use the fact that you have chrome valve covers and a polished intake manifold on your engine against you? I can see if you modified the firearm mechanically such as lightening the trigger pull or some other modification that could make the firearm less safe, or an engraved message that is obviously offensive, that could be used against you. Other than the muzzle inscription on the Glock, I see nothing in those photo's that could be a problem. I'm not too crazy about the pink nail polish, but whatever floats your boat.
My CZ has held it's color for the last 10 months...
Been shot & cleaned at least 6-8 times since color was added.
Great color matching on the CZ
I feel sad that coloring or inlaying is beginning to be frowned upon. people have been decorating their firearms for hundreds of years and if you have to keep yours blaw and impersonal that makes me sad.
I don't think guns like this should be lost to history.
I used white paint in the roll markings on my Glock's, along with stainless steel pins, an aluminum trigger with red anodized aluminum safety. I also like to polish the flats on the slides of my stainless steel semi auto's along with polishing the controls, it gives a nice contrast with the sand blasted matte finish on the frame. I've also polished to a mirror finish my all stainless steel revolvers leaving the top and cylinder flutes matte. Scratches on a matte stainless finish stand out like a sore thumb, with a mirror finish all it takes to get rid of them is to polish them out with 1500 or 2000 grit wet or dry automotive grade sandpaper. I also like the looks of semi auto's where the frame and slide are of opposite colors black frame and stainless slide or vice versa with controls that also contrast against those components. I have a Sig 229 Equinox .40 which is a work of art straight out of the box, the only thing I did was change the grips to rosewood. But hey, it's your gun and your choice, one man's poop is another man's meat. Part of the fun of owning guns is to dress up an otherwise bland looking gun.
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