There are many opinions out there on Pit Bulls, from media coverage, to a pair of old fellas at the diner talking during breakfast. What's Your opinion on them?:watching:
She's doing better, thank you.Sorry to hear that James, I hope your Lady Bug pulls through...
Yea, I hear you.On the main topic though, I witnessed the same thing with a beagle, so to hell with all beagles
Also from the report:CDC said:Pit bull-type: 66
Rottweiler: 39
German Shepherd Dog: 17
Husky-type: 15
Malamute: 12
Doberman Pinscher: 9
Chow Chow: 8
Great Dane: 7
Saint Bernard: 7
Basically, I think the conclusion that can be reached from this data and Timothy's is that small dogs are more likely to bite. However, given a bite, pit-bulls, rottweilers, and other large breeds are more likely to kill you.CDC said:Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF [edit: dog bite related fatality] reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through 1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996.
Is this a test of peoples' Google-Fu? :numbchuck:Why are they called Pit Bulls...?
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well, my Golden Retriever has the name "Retriever" because it's in his genetics to retrieve. He was created for that purpose through breeding. He pretty much walks around 24/7 with a red ball in his mouth just waiting for someone to throw it so he can go and get it...then drop it at your feet to repeat the process. The "Shepherd" breed are bred to help herd... Poodles are water dogs, Mastiff's are bred to protect... Pointers point... yada, yada, yada... I'm just curious as to why a "Pit Bull" has the name of "Pit Bull".Is this a test of peoples' Google-Fu? :numbchuck:
Are you claiming that dog behavior has changed in the past ten years? :watching:I see CDC facts which are ten years old, but as you stated pitbull types.
If you followed the point I was trying to make, you'd realize the above statement is one possible reason you're posting on this board instead of pushing up daisies. I'm not saying pit bulls are more likely to attack, as you continue to try to refute, but that they are a fundamentally more dangerous dog because of the harm when they do attack.I've never been bit by a pit or rott and I've been bitten 12 times.
Damn, now I really miss my Golden. I gotta get another someday soon. Time to start working on the "boss".well, my Golden Retriever has the name "Retriever" because it's in his genetics to retrieve. He was created for that purpose through breeding. He pretty much walks around 24/7 with a red ball in his mouth just waiting for someone to throw it so he can go and get it...then drop it at your feet to repeat the process. The "Shepherd" breed are bred to help herd... Poodles are water dogs, Mastiff's are bred to protect... Pointers point... yada, yada, yada... I'm just curious as to why a "Pit Bull" has the name of "Pit Bull".
I'm being sarcastic... but if someone wants a little history lesson, it's provided below...Do you really not know where the name came from js?
Let's re-cap: American pit bull terriers in general have a higher tendency towards dog aggression and constitute the majority of dogs used for illegal dog fighting in the United StatesAmerican Pit Bull Terrier
The American Pit Bull Terrier is the product of interbreeding between terriers and a now-extinct breed of bulldogs to produce a dog that combined the gameness of the terrier with the strength and athleticism of the bulldog. These dogs were initially bred in England, Ireland, and Scotland, and arrived in the United States with immigrants from these countries. In the United States these dogs were used as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, to drive livestock, and as family companions; however, some were selectively bred for their fighting prowess, and starting in the early 20th century they began to replace the bull terrier as the "dog of choice" for dog fighting in the United States.
The United Kennel Club (UKC) was the first registry to recognize the American Pit Bull Terrier. UKC founder C. Z. Bennett assigned UKC registration number 1 to his own dog, Bennett's Ring, as an American Pit Bull Terrier in 1898.
American pit bull terriers today successfully fill the role of companion dog, police dog, and therapy dog; however, American pit bull terriers in general have a higher tendency towards dog aggression and constitute the majority of dogs used for illegal dog fighting in the United States. The fighting reputation of pit bull-type dogs led the San Francisco Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in 1996 to relabel pit bull terriers as "St. Francis Terriers" (not to be confused with the "Terrier" mascot of St. Francis College in New York) so that they might be more readily adopted; 60 temperament-screened dogs were adopted until the program was halted after several of the newly adopted dogs killed cats. The New York City Center for Animal Care and Control tried a similar approach in 2004 by relabeling their pit bull terriers as "New Yorkies," but dropped the idea in the face of overwhelming public opposition.
But that's only because the Killer Beagle has long been outlawed - by International Treaty, I forget which one - from dog fighting. The Killer Beagle goes through Pit Bulls like a Killer Bunny goes through Knights....Let's re-cap: American pit bull terriers in general have a higher tendency towards dog aggression and constitute the majority of dogs used for illegal dog fighting in the United States
That is a horrible story, but I disagree with you that it isn't your neighbors' fault. If you own a dog, you have to train it.Pit Bulls. Well let's see.
It's about Midnight here in New Mexico on a Saturday night. I'm sitting in my office with my best friend since Sept '01. Lady Bug is a Lab mix that I rescued from a bad home/environment when she was about two years old. I have been a dog owner/lover for about 45 years, and I can say without reservation that Lady Bug is the best dog I have ever known, and I've owned a lot. I own my own business, and this has allowed Lady Bug and I to spend almost every minute of every day together for the last eight years. She has literally been my shadow - where I go, my shadow follows.
Over Labor Day weekend, (two weeks ago) Lady Bug got deathly ill, could not/would not eat, was throwing up, and I feared, near death. When the Vet opened on Tuesday (after Labor Day) I took Lady Bug in to see what was wrong with her. She was running a fever of about 105 degrees, so the Vet gave her a shot of antibiotics and a prescription for more for me to give her orally.
Over the next week and a half, Lady Bug got better, her fever broke, but was still weak. Blood tests revealed that she had an infection of some type, but we don't know what was wrong with her. Before she got sick she weighed 63 pounds, but by today she has lost about 10% of her body weight. She has been eating again, but doesn't have much of an appetite. She is once again my shadow, but moves very slowly and is clearly not herself yet.
So, enough history. This afternoon, my 17 year old niece, one of her girlfriends, and my employee were doing some cleanup on my property so that my niece could bring in a horse. My neighbor's Pit Bull mix charged them, unprovoked, while they were on my property. My employee removed his belt, and started swinging it at the Pit Bull mix to ward it off. Lady Bug saw the Pit Bull attack, and came to the rescue. In her weakened state, she was no match, but she knew her duty.
I was in the shop when I heard hollering, screaming, and all hell brake loose. I came running as fast as and old, fat, out of shape man could. When I rounded the corner, I saw Lady Bug on the ground and the Pit Bull mix on top of her, trying to shred her to bits. I knew that when I hit the Pit Bull full speed with my foot, that I would knock it off Lady Bug. I was wrong.
The Pit Bull didn't release it's death grip, so my next instinct was to pull my pistol and shoot the aggressor. But instead, I hit the Pit on it's head thinking that would work - nope. Next I grabbed the Pit's leather collar and tried to pull it off Lady Bug, but all that did was pick up the Pit and Lady Bug, as the Pit had it's jaws clamped on Lady Bug's throat. I then noticed that the Pit also had a chain collar, so I grabbed the chain, twisted it, and hoped I could choke the Pit enough that it would have to release it's grip. Just as I was about to give up and was reaching for my pistol, the Pit finally succumbed to the choke down and released it's grip.
As they carried Lady Bug away, I held the Pit in the choke hold so everyone could retreat. The Pit looked me in the eye, Lady Bug's blood dripping from it's mouth, and the only thing I saw in it's eyes was pure evil. It was all I could do to fight the urge to destroy this beast. But in the end, I love animals, have trained to pull my CC weapon only as a last resort, so I released my choke hold and let the Pit retreat to it's own property.
Well, it's taken me well over an hour to type this, as I stop frequently to comfort Lady Bug, to hold the water bowl so she can drink, to reach for another Kleenex, and to try to regain my composure. I know not whether Lady Bug will live, I have preyed so, but fear the worst. She has not moved from her bed since we returned from the Vet about 10 hours ago, but at least she is drinking some water.
So, let's talk about Pit Bulls. I always thought that Pit Bulls got a bad rap and it was the owner's fault if they were mean and aggressive. But my neighbors are just ordinary people. They are like 60 years old. They are not criminals or drug dealers. They just happened to own a Pit Bull mix.
So what do I think about Pit Bulls? I say to hell with them. My employee tells me that before I got to the scene, the Pit had Lady Bug by the throat and was throwing her around like a rag doll. Had I been there and seen this happen, New Mexico would have one less Pit Bull to worry about.
That's not the dog's fault. I have a couple friends that are 260ish lbs, and if I was having a people fight, those 2 are the 2 I would "train" to fight. They are the nicest, most soft-spoken guys I know, but they could be "taught" to kill you with their bare hands. If that is how they were brought up, would that be their fault, or their trainers' (parents')?I'm being sarcastic... but if someone wants a little history lesson, it's provided below...
Let's re-cap: American pit bull terriers in general have a higher tendency towards dog aggression and constitute the majority of dogs used for illegal dog fighting in the United States