View Poll Results: Opinion: Pit Bull
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Pit Bulls as a breed are more dangerous than other breeds.
They are just a dog. They are no more/ less dangerous than other breeds.
Pit Bulls are harmless dogs, they are less dangerous than other breeds.
Other, Please tell us.
How many attacks on neighbors and kids from Pit Bull's that are great, gentle dogs?
My best friend owns a pit, and an American Bulldog. They are both the friendliest, sweetest dogs you ever met. Neither has ever snapped at a human. Both are VERY smart, well trained, and disciplined dogs. Great family dogs...
Until I took one for a walk in my mother's neighborhood, unfamiliar to the dog, where it encountered a Golden Retriever who is VERY docile, about 12 years old, and the same size as the pit. The two went nose to nose, and nose to rear, to sniff things out. Male Pit, female Golden...
With seemingly NO provocation, no sudden movements, and after 3 minutes of pleasant conversation, the Pit damn near removed the upper lip of the Golden. Took me 20-30 sec to separate the pit. The Golden was whimpering and trying to escape, with NO aggression. The Pit would NOT let go. I had to drive my fingers into his mouth and squeeze his lips against his teeth to get him to release (proper technique).
The dog just plain snapped, and attacked the other dog. I've never seen this in any other breed. Only heard of it in Akitas, and a few others. This is an isolated incident, but stereotype develop for reasons.
I love these dogs like my own. I've had them in my home for months on end. He would never bite me. But after that experience, I'd never take him around an unfamiliar dog. Period.
Years ago, one of my rural neighbors had a cross-bred pit that weighed about 40 pounds, that he used to catch belligerent cows, steers, etc. He had brought a bull calf to me, (about 400 lbs.) in payment for some fence I had built for him, and when he released the calf, it took off straight to a hole in the fence, and was immediately loose in the woods. He and his son spent about an hour trying to catch and rope the calf, to no avail, so he resorted to his hole card - the bulldog.
He untied the dog and simply said, "go git 'im." In about two minutes, the calf came running out of the woods, and as soon as he hit the opening, the bulldog ran under him and grabbed him by the nose and backed up between his front legs. The bull calf skidded to a stop and froze in position, his head tucked between his front legs, where the dog was still attached.
Knowing how bulldogs are, I asked him how he was going to get the dog to turn loose. He looked at me with a pained expression, and said, "there's only one way." Then, after his son casually placed a rope around the calf's neck, he bent over and started squeezing the dogs balls with both hands, until he yelped and turned loose to snap at his tormentor. As soon as the dog turned loose, he grabbed his collar, and the dog went back to his normal friendly behavior.
There are many horror stories.Many dogs,they are after all animals.Humans attack as well,animal instinct.
There are good and bad dogs of all breeds. Pits do tend to draw the media's attention more because alot, but not all, of the people that own them are the just as bad.
I just got a red Dobie about 6-7 weeks ago. He is a very intelegent pup (almost 4 months old) but in the wrong hands could be dangerous. His name is Bocephus by the way.
I've never owned a pit, but several of my friends have in the past. The only time I've seen these animals get aggressive, they thought I shouldn't be there or were taken by surprise. A simple scolding by the owner and the dog laid down and went back to a lump on the carpet or changed demeanor and asked for a little loving. I've seen the same traits in the labs/ shepherds I had growing up. Dogs are meant to be big (good first line of home defense). I don't discriminate against breeds but am always cautious around an unfamiliar animal- regardless of size.
Last edited by thelonerang3r; 08-23-2009 at 02:51 PM.
pits are big babys
i have 2 pits that get along fine with every one people oher dogs dosen matter they get a bad rap from retards that have never had one and belives everything the news tells them
more stitches from taco bell dogs
so many more bites than pits little dogs are vicious bites just go unreported
Pit Bulls. Well let's see.
It's about Midnight here in New Mexico on a Saturday night. I'm sitting in my office with my best friend since Sept '01. Lady Bug is a Lab mix that I rescued from a bad home/environment when she was about two years old. I have been a dog owner/lover for about 45 years, and I can say without reservation that Lady Bug is the best dog I have ever known, and I've owned a lot. I own my own business, and this has allowed Lady Bug and I to spend almost every minute of every day together for the last eight years. She has literally been my shadow - where I go, my shadow follows.
Over Labor Day weekend, (two weeks ago) Lady Bug got deathly ill, could not/would not eat, was throwing up, and I feared, near death. When the Vet opened on Tuesday (after Labor Day) I took Lady Bug in to see what was wrong with her. She was running a fever of about 105 degrees, so the Vet gave her a shot of antibiotics and a prescription for more for me to give her orally.
Over the next week and a half, Lady Bug got better, her fever broke, but was still weak. Blood tests revealed that she had an infection of some type, but we don't know what was wrong with her. Before she got sick she weighed 63 pounds, but by today she has lost about 10% of her body weight. She has been eating again, but doesn't have much of an appetite. She is once again my shadow, but moves very slowly and is clearly not herself yet.
So, enough history. This afternoon, my 17 year old niece, one of her girlfriends, and my employee were doing some cleanup on my property so that my niece could bring in a horse. My neighbor's Pit Bull mix charged them, unprovoked, while they were on my property. My employee removed his belt, and started swinging it at the Pit Bull mix to ward it off. Lady Bug saw the Pit Bull attack, and came to the rescue. In her weakened state, she was no match, but she knew her duty.
I was in the shop when I heard hollering, screaming, and all hell brake loose. I came running as fast as and old, fat, out of shape man could. When I rounded the corner, I saw Lady Bug on the ground and the Pit Bull mix on top of her, trying to shred her to bits. I knew that when I hit the Pit Bull full speed with my foot, that I would knock it off Lady Bug. I was wrong.
The Pit Bull didn't release it's death grip, so my next instinct was to pull my pistol and shoot the aggressor. But instead, I hit the Pit on it's head thinking that would work - nope. Next I grabbed the Pit's leather collar and tried to pull it off Lady Bug, but all that did was pick up the Pit and Lady Bug, as the Pit had it's jaws clamped on Lady Bug's throat. I then noticed that the Pit also had a chain collar, so I grabbed the chain, twisted it, and hoped I could choke the Pit enough that it would have to release it's grip. Just as I was about to give up and was reaching for my pistol, the Pit finally succumbed to the choke down and released it's grip.
As they carried Lady Bug away, I held the Pit in the choke hold so everyone could retreat. The Pit looked me in the eye, Lady Bug's blood dripping from it's mouth, and the only thing I saw in it's eyes was pure evil. It was all I could do to fight the urge to destroy this beast. But in the end, I love animals, have trained to pull my CC weapon only as a last resort, so I released my choke hold and let the Pit retreat to it's own property.
Well, it's taken me well over an hour to type this, as I stop frequently to comfort Lady Bug, to hold the water bowl so she can drink, to reach for another Kleenex, and to try to regain my composure. I know not whether Lady Bug will live, I have preyed so, but fear the worst. She has not moved from her bed since we returned from the Vet about 10 hours ago, but at least she is drinking some water.
So, let's talk about Pit Bulls. I always thought that Pit Bulls got a bad rap and it was the owner's fault if they were mean and aggressive. But my neighbors are just ordinary people. They are like 60 years old. They are not criminals or drug dealers. They just happened to own a Pit Bull mix.
So what do I think about Pit Bulls? I say to hell with them. My employee tells me that before I got to the scene, the Pit had Lady Bug by the throat and was throwing her around like a rag doll. Had I been there and seen this happen, New Mexico would have one less Pit Bull to worry about.
Sorry to hear that James, I hope your Lady Bug pulls through.
On the main topic though, I witnessed the same thing with a beagle, so to hell with all beagles.
She's doing better, thank you.
Originally Posted by falchunt
Yea, I hear you.
On the main topic though, I witnessed the same thing with a beagle, so to hell with all beagles
I mean, has there ever been a more vicious dog than Snoopy?
Now, back to the "main topic". Just for grins, what happens with you poll if everywhere you see the word "Dog", you substitute "Snake", and every where you see the words "Pit Bull", you substitute the words "Rattle Snake"?
The ignorance on the issue is by fa one of the most ridiculous. I personally own 4 2 of which stay in the house and our big babies. The breed was originally bred to fight and in this process aggression towards humans was bred out. So as records show pit bulls are less likely to bite a human than pomeranians. For example which are in the top ten for most human aggressive dogs. OK here it is for you all
There is a Dog Statistics done on every dog each year that shows what dogs are more aggresive than others. Don't believe me look it up. Atts - Amercian Temperament Test Society
Anything above 80% is good!!!!
Dalmation 81.8%, Husky 86.6%, German Shepard/ cop dog 83.5%, Rotts
82.6%, Mastiff 83.9%, American Pit Bull Terrier 84.3%, American Staffordshire 83.4%, Staffordshire Bull Terrier 85.3%, and Boxer 84.3
Now the beloved little dogs..
Collie 53.3%, Bichon Frise 79.3%, Corgi 75.4%, Chihuahua 70.3%,
Dachshund 70.2%, Setter 75%, Schnauzer 75.5%, Lhasa Apso 69.2%
So you see that beloved dogs are more human aggressive than the dangerous pit bull!!!
Sorry James I understand your point but I had a lab kill one of my pits when he was 4 months old the lab was 2 years old got out the neighbors yard. I'm not saying that some pits aren't dag agressive, but they're not likely to be human aggressive so before we judge the breed and say kill'em all lets first get rid of the mean breds such as Collie 53.3%, Bichon Frise 79.3%, Corgi 75.4%, Chihuahua 70.3%,
Dachshund 70.2%, Setter 75%, Schnauzer 75.5%, Lhasa Apso 69.2%
Just to name a few!!!
For the record, I was not being sarcastic when I was talking about the beagle. Actually, the beagle was my grandfathers. He is a fantastic rabbit hunting dog. Built like a tank, and has a nose like no other. He absolutely will not tolerate any other animals being on my Grandfather's property. He killed a black lab (stray) back in 01. He also attacked my mothers' toy collie, puncturing her rib area several times before I got there and pulled him off. The point is, what happend to your dog (glad to hear shes doing better) does not make any breed bad. Just makes a dog dangerous. And TimothyS is putting up some real facts on this page.
Alright, breaking out the stats...here's the CDC's reports on human dog bite related fatalities:
Summary of the totals from 1979-1999, excluding "police dogs at work" as indicated in the report (which would skew the data towards Dobermanns, I assume).
Also from the report:
Originally Posted by CDC
Basically, I think the conclusion that can be reached from this data and Timothy's is that small dogs are more likely to bite. However, given a bite, pit-bulls, rottweilers, and other large breeds are more likely to kill you.
Originally Posted by CDC
I see CDC facts which are ten years old, but as you stated pitbull types. Thats where the media causes the problems they include any dog thats in the bully breed or looks like a pit such as blocky head. So your CDC report maybe fact however it includes way more than pit bulls. I agree with KG but working in a field(I check electric meters on properties of all kinds) where dogs attack you for coming in their territory. I've never been bit by a pit or rott and I've been bitten 12 times. However I've got a scare on my ankle from a collie, was bit 2 times by a beagle mix, 1 saint bernard, 1 shepherd, 1 basset hound,and others that where mix breeds. My wife has a small scare on her face from her mothers Pomeranian.
EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH THIS!!!
Ten Facts About Pit Bulls Every One Should Know
1. Pit Bulls are commonly used as therapy dogs. Whether they are visiting a senior care facility or helping someone recover from an emotional accident, Pit Bulls are making a mark as outstanding therapy dogs.
2. Pit Bulls are used in Search and Rescue work. One example of well known SAR Pit Bulls is Kris Crawford and her dogs. Kris and her dogs have helped save the lives of many people during their efforts. http://www.ForPitsSake.org
3. Pit Bulls serve as narcotic and bomb sniffing dogs. One Pit Bull, Popsicle (named that because he was found in an old freezer) has the largest recorded single drug find in Texas history. Read more about Popsicle here. Including how he found over 3,000 lbs of cocaine in Hildago, Texas.
4. Pit Bulls are great with kids. They weren't referred to as the "nanny's dog" for nothing that's for sure.
5. Pit Bulls are not human aggressive. The American Pit Bull Terrier as a breed is not human aggressive. In fact, quite the opposite is true of the breed. They are gentle and loving dogs. Like any dog individuals can be unsound and have behavior problems.
6. The Pit Bull was so popular in the early 1900's they were our mascot not only in World War One, but World War Two as well. They were featured on recruiting and propoganda posters during this time period.
7. Sgt. Stubby. A Pit Bull war hero. Stubby was wounded in action twice, he saved his entire platoon by warning them of a poison gas attack and he single handedly captured a German spy.
8. Pete the Pup on the orginal Little Rascals was a Pit Bull.
9. Pit Bulls score an 83.4% passing rate with the American Temperament Test Society. That's better than the popular Border Collie (a breed who scores 79.6%). View the ATTS stats here.
10. They are dogs not killing machines.
Why are they called Pit Bulls...?
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Originally Posted by js
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